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    Ammo choice for fox

    Ok, I know this is a bit 'ballistics' a bit 'equipment' etc. but chucking it in the 'general' section anyway

    So, for foxing with a .308Win , what bullet choice should I look at if I want to keep the skins in best condition possible? should I be looking towards target ammo almost, or something VERY slow maybe?

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    The skins are worth nothing now , and their just coming into molt

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    whats that? explain yourself, looks funky

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    Remington Accelerator ammo - now discontinued.

    The .308 (or 30.06 or 30-30) cartridge holds a .224, 55gr sub-calibre bullet in a discarding plastic sabot. Velocity in the .308 was 3700fps (4080fps in the 30.06) making 1735 ft/lb (2003 ft/lb). The idea was to allow the 'one gun' deer hunter to enjoy varmint shooting with the same firearm. Reports are that accuracy left something to be desired above 150 yds although maybe Muir can clarify that point.

    You can obtain 30/22 calibre sabots from some specialist reloading suppliers in the States, so maybe they could made more accurate?

    Here's some related stuff I found for another thread where this was mentioned:

    Apparently the US military developed a .223 tungsten carbide bullet in a .308 sabot under the designation Sabot Light Armour Piercing (M948 SLAP) - presumably for use in the SR25 (M16 based) semi-auto 7.62 sniper rifle - I guess it would give you more than just a light slap though!

    A bit of research shows the reason why the sub-calibre SLAP round has the edge over a full-calibre 7.62 AP round:

    7,62mm M948 SLAP penetrates ~30mm HB400 steel@100m
    7,62mm M993 AP penetrates ~17mm HB400 steel@100m

    Found this as well:

    "Sweden uses a 7,62mm SLAP round (52grn,4,81mm bullet@4400fps)for their PSG-90(Accuracy International)sniper rifles. Though it (the SLAP round) doesn't have the same accuracy potential as a match round, but the advantage is that the time of flight to target, bullet drop and wind drift is much smaller, perhaps half as much as a normal round due to the extremely high velocity. Thus it is more forgiving when it comes to distance and wind calculation/estimation errors as compared to a normal round".

    So maybe accuracy at longer distances can be enhanced enough to make the sub-calibre sabot rounds effective after all?

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    Nosler b-tips or hollow points say hello. Most of my out in the wilds foxing is with my .308 and 150 grains does leave a bit of a scratch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul at barony View Post
    Nosler b-tips or hollow points say hello. Most of my out in the wilds foxing is with my .308 and 150 grains does leave a bit of a scratch.
    I'm using .224" Hornady 68grain BTHP Match at the moment with an MV of about 3100fps. Very effective on fox at sensible ranges (sub 300m) and pretty decent at 400m+ paper punching too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamus View Post
    I'm using .224" Hornady 68grain BTHP Match at the moment with an MV of about 3100fps.
    Errr...........................

    Quote Originally Posted by PKL View Post
    So, for foxing with a .308Win

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    Errr...........................




    Nope... .223rem... and before you doubt my MV... It's got a 27 1/2" barrel... so that's why

    Actually you raise an interesting question with your accelerators. If you want to reload them what do you need on your ticket?

    Oh... and if expansion is an issue in your mind.... I design them to expand OK... and do they ever.

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    Well he could couldn't he?

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