Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 15

Thread: open ticket / or not

  1. #1

    open ticket / or not

    hi there

    just received my certificate back for having a variation to add a 308. it say i can shoot where i deam suitable with my 22 and 243 but with the 308 only land cleared by cheif officer of police.

    is it me

    regards pj

  2. #2
    not open on 308, open on others.

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by bobt View Post
    not open on 308, open on others.
    +1

    Rgds, Buck.
    "let him without sin cast the first stone"





  4. #4
    ok as i thought. but why the differance. am i far more dangerous with a 308 over a 243. when i applied for my .222 i had open ticket straight away. have had my 22 for 6 years 243 for 4 and have sold my 222 to get 308. im confused and frustrated

  5. #5
    Distinguished Member 223's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    Nr Newport (shrops)
    Posts
    1,919
    any one caliber is no more dangerous than the next one its the person behind the trigger that counts, so if your open on a 243 why not a 308 ?

    tell them if anything to put your 22 rimfire on a closed ticket due to increased chances of riochoets

    safebackstop that counts not the size of the bullet, you get my drift

  6. #6
    thanks 223

    glad its not just me. i will have to send my ticket back as i hope to get the 308 tomorrow and exchange my 243 for it so will talk to my feo. just frustrating that there is no clear guidance on any firearms law. everything seems to be up to the police authority "interpritation"

    regards pj

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by pj1 View Post
    just received my certificate back for having a variation to add a 308. it say i can shoot where i deam suitable with my 22 and 243 but with the 308 only land cleared by cheif officer of police.
    pj, is there any difference in quarry species? Have you added deer for the .308, or did you already have it with the .243?

    We've seen it recently on here that some forces, GMP is one I believe, have a policy of imposing certain conditions such as the dreaded 'mentoring' initially when deer is a quarry. Maybe your force have a similar thing with territorial restrictions being added automatically and they have just made an avoidable admin error?

    Quote Originally Posted by pj1 View Post
    just frustrating that there is no clear guidance on any firearms law. everything seems to be up to the police authority "interpritation"


    There's some perfectly good and usable guidance available to the various police forces in the form of the Home Office Guidance to Police, (the clue is in the title ), plus the sporadic but sensible recommendations that they receive from ACPO Firearms & Explosives Licensing Working Group (FELWG), such as that advising use of the 'Any Other Lawful Quarry' condition.

    The fact that some of the FLDs choose to ignore them and go there own way is often the root cause of many of the avoidable issues suffered by law-abiding shooters.

    Link to ACPO FELWG Minutes for those who have an interest:

    http://www.dorset.police.uk/default.aspx?page=626

  8. #8
    hi orion

    thanks for the reply. i think they have really cocked up. i handed in my ticket for with a receipt showing i had sold my .222. a receipt showing i had sold my 243 mod. a permission to shoot letter detailing where and with what calibre (308) and forms for variation to add a 308. they sent a letter saying thankyou for telling them i have sold my 222 but could i send my cert in. my cert arrived on friday with 222 taken off and 308 added this bit was at least right. i also notice that the 243 mod that i have sold i apparently still posses.
    i had deer and fox on my ticket for the 243 so there is no differance at all except it being a 308 and that they will not put fox on the 308.
    has the world gone mad

    regards pj

  9. #9
    Aahh Sussex send it back with a letter asking for the condition to be removed and fox added ' whilst stalking deer ' . They don't like fox on 308 but you should get this. Obviously explain you shoot fallow at dusk and then foxes and you would feel its in the public safety not to have to take another rifle out and leave it in the car .
    then follow this up with a call direct to firearms after a week .
    Atb steve

  10. #10
    As I had lost my permission and hadn't currently got any nominated ground, on my recent renewal I asked for an open ticket and got it in terms of land with no conditions or requirement for an inspection - that's left to my judgement. I have a .243 and .270 with the .243 previously conditioned for deer and foxes and the .270 just for deer and when the very amenable FLO called to give me my new FAC and check my security I just commented on how stupid it was that I could not shoot a fox with my .270 whilst deerstalking if a gamekeeper asked me to. He immediately took the FAC back and had it changed to allow me to take a fox "whilst deerstalking" within a couple of hours.

    He also said that if I got an invitation/bought a day to shoot boar or had land with boar, that he would be happy to condition my .270 for boar.

    You really can't knock that - North Wales Police by the way and a big change over their previous attitude but we've got a new FLO and a new Chief Constable.
    Last edited by paul k; 13-03-2011 at 08:34.

Similar Threads

  1. Applying for 'Open Ticket'
    By foxbuster in forum Legal Issues
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 09-02-2011, 17:27
  2. open ticket
    By SussexFallow in forum Legal Issues
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 12-10-2010, 22:29
  3. Open Ticket
    By Brianm in forum Deer Stalking General
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 11-02-2010, 12:31
  4. Open ticket
    By Dozycrow in forum Legal Issues
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 07-02-2009, 18:51
  5. open ticket
    By wint in forum Legal Issues
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 22-12-2008, 11:35

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •