Not sure this is ethicaly correct. Favour for a favour. Another failing of the DMQ system of none regulation.
Not sure this is ethicaly correct. Favour for a favour. Another failing of the DMQ system of none regulation.
To be perfectly honest my thoughts two,also like to make the point,that in no way am i calling Paul Dishonest,and would i get the same offer to clue me up on my permission in Dumfries ?
Bernie
Chris people moan to have to pay someone like me to witness them.
Why should this favour alter anything, you could get written off without even going into the field with someone.
Trust is the big thing here.
If I wanted to shoot a different deer to what I have locally I would do the same as Paul and my witnessing would not be biased by this favour.
Most people do the dsc2 because they can do it and want to do it.
Those that want to cheat will but what does it prove to themselves other than they cheated. They must be then frightened to stalk in other dsc2 holders company as they would be very transparent and i would certinally ask "who the fook witnessed you"? I would not want anyone saying that about anybody I witnessed.
Here lie's the Problem,to gain level 2 if you have no ground of your own,you have to book in with the Various places to shoot deer for a Qualification, at the price they Ask,
To pass my driving test i pay the Gov the going rate and pass or fail
It should be the same with level two, without Accredited witness's Minting up on folk coz they have permission
Bernie
Bernie...
Everybody is required to have an M.O.T
Are you saying the friends and family i didnt charge the full going rate had an inferior or unsafe MOT..
The only favour they had was to save a few bob and why not...
Get real guys... been a beautiful sunny day down here
Terry
Bernie if you have no ground, why do you need a dsc2 in the first place? You will be looking at buying shooting so your guide should have it(or equivilant) and can enter the deer into the food chain. Or you will be joining a syndicate and training maybe given in your first year.Here lie's the Problem,to gain level 2 if you have no ground of your own,you have to book in with the Various places to shoot deer for a Qualification, at the price they Ask,
To pass my driving test i pay the Gov the going rate and pass or fail
It should be the same with level two, without Accredited witness's Minting up on folk coz they have permission
Bernie
Bernie I see your pointYou might have a family member who can MOT for you i Aint,so its full wack for me
This Level 2 really winds me up,if i want to drive a Forklift truck,Excavator,dumptruck,Dozzer i have to go on a course and Pass or Fail.with a Gov approved provider
But Level Two is Different i could go out with an Accredited witness Every morning and night for a week, at £50 a throw, and not see jack sh*t with a cost of 700 bar and thats Right ???
Bernie
You might have a family member who can MOT for you i Aint,so its full wack for me
This Level 2 really winds me up,if i want to drive a Forklift truck,Excavator,dumptruck,Dozzer i have to go on a course and Pass or Fail.with a Gov approved provider
But Level Two is Different i could go out with an Accredited witness Every morning and night for a week, at £50 a throw, and not see jack sh*t with a cost of 700 bar and thats Right ???
Bernie
Bernie if you have no ground, why do you need a dsc2 in the first place? You will be looking at buying shooting so your guide should have it(or equivilant) and can enter the deer into the food chain. Or you will be joining a syndicate and training maybe given in your first year.
The costs involved to me who earns a living from deer have to be covered. I charge £40 more if a deer is grassed to witness the stalk. I did one today and had the lad in my house for 3 hours and had many cups of tea,sat infront of my fire used my chiller and ameanities, then theres the 1/2 hour on the phone with his assessor in the evening when i'm having a few hours with my family.
I'm in bussiness. You have a choice you pay me or you acept a favour from some one like paul and expect him to be fair with his test not to "go easy on you"
suspision will get you no where.
No one is forcing you to pay me or anyone there are ways and bringing pro's and kind hearted people into disrespect will get you no where.
regards john
I can see only good
Good of Paul to give up his time and fuel to either witness or if they are not good enough train them
and it will give Paul experiance of stalking another species
The other option is for some to pay for a stalk and then pay another £40 for a signature