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    Accidental Discharge

    After over fifty years of rifle shooting I have had an accidental discharge. From the start of shooting I have never put my finger inside a trigger guard unless I was about to fire. I just dont do it. No damage but to a bit of pride I suppose but what happened. Was it the rifle? should not be. It is a reletively new prohunter. Took me a bit to work it out. But it could happen to anyone. My jacket has fairly stiff velcro cuff tags. These sit pointing directly at the rifle. I surmise the most likely scenario is that it caught under the trigger and pulled as my hand returned to the stock. The discharge was not at the completion of the bolt cycle but was before my hand reached the palm swell on the stock. Rifle was in a safe angle as the recycle took place.
    It emphisises the need to be safety concious at all times. I will be applying the safety before recycling the bolt. The tags on the jacket will not be sticking out on the next trip. Small things you do not realise are a hazzard can catch us out.
    Jim

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    They are not nice. I had one last year when setting the trigger, but again safe gun handling meant just injured pride. Keeping that barrel pointing in a safe direction is what counts.

    Worst offenders are clay shooters with shotguns - so often I see guns held by the pistol grip, finger near the trigger and barrels brought up to the action - loaded gun is now pointing horizontally!

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    two things come to ind:-

    1) that trigger is damned too light for a cloth tag to trip it.................... way too light.

    2) Not at completion of bolt cycle??? surely if the bolt is not fully locked then the rifle should not be able to fire at all.???

    Just glad that due to muzzle awareness not damage done except to pride.

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    At least you had the guts to openly admit it jim, how many would have kept it quite, I wonder.

    The main thing is no one was injured, and your right your subconscious mind will be on saftey now.

    Rgds. Buck.
    "let him without sin cast the first stone"





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    Brithunter it is a pity you cannot read english. If you did you might understand what I have written.
    For your limited understanding let me explain. The bullet did not fire at the completion means the cycle had ended and the bullet was now fully chambered. It did not at this point go bang. Now do you understand.
    As for cloth tag it is a fairy thick velcro tag, quite stiff. I said it caught under the trigger. It did not pull the trigger. it wedged between the trigger guard and trigger. In such a position any trigger no matter how heavy set is likely to fire.
    Hope that helps out your limited understanding,
    Jim

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    Scares the **** out of you mate. I wa next to a mate when we were doing a few long distance targets and bang as he slapped up a round the gun went off bolt flew back and broke off the back locking lug .Reason after we got back was the primers were way proud and all ammo had to be pulled and primer press reset. Also had a few others but they were the shooters own faults and i dont like to disscuss them ones .

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    I've done it once about 5 years ago when setting the trigger, down in a safe prone position while zeroing in. Still scares the crap out of you.

    I have also witnessed a friends .270 go off when he closed the bolt face over the bullet!!!

    It drives home how muzzle awareness is so important.

    Mark.

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    that's a good point if re-loading, if your primers sticking out a bit, don't force the bolt shut on it! ha ha ha.

    I know a guy who crawling down the ladder from a highseat, put the rifle on the rung just below hip-height as he crawled down, accidentally touched the trigger, and BANG! hole in the front of his hat!!!!! he felt the bullet skim by his face and take his hat off....he retired from shooting at that point....

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    Had one myself first time out with my brand new at the time sauer .243 whilst setting the trigger just sighting in pushed it forward let go and away it went straight into the ground,needless to say i set it a lot heavier after that but just goes to show that safe gun handling is paramount and one should never become complacent with it,keep that muzzle down no matter what and only a harmless lesson is learnt even if it scares the crap out of you,sounds like you need a bit of dress alterations there Jimbo don't go and blunt the misses best scissors now.
    Neil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo123p View Post
    Brithunter it is a pity you cannot read english. If you did you might understand what I have written.
    For your limited understanding let me explain. The bullet did not fire at the completion means the cycle had ended and the bullet was now fully chambered. It did not at this point go bang. Now do you understand.
    As for cloth tag it is a fairy thick velcro tag, quite stiff. I said it caught under the trigger. It did not pull the trigger. it wedged between the trigger guard and trigger. In such a position any trigger no matter how heavy set is likely to fire.
    Hope that helps out your limited understanding,
    Jim
    "I surmise the most likely scenario is that it caught under the trigger and pulled as my hand returned to the stock. The discharge was not at the completion of the bolt cycle but was before my hand reached the palm swell on the stock"

    OK I surmise that the trigger is way too light, I also surmise that applying the safety will lock the bolt. I am not familiar with the newer Steyr safeties so do not know if they can be opened on safe. However a safety can fail and should never be relied upon. Further more I surmise that having anything sticking out towards the trigger is a daft thing to have there and asking for trouble. The "tag" would have to be in front of the trigger to "Pull it". Under the trigger would likely block it's movement.

    The surmise about trigger weight is based upon trying out several stalking rifles AND reading the posts that appear regularly on SD about replacement triggers and adjusting them down to damned silly weights. The .243 Midland I recently acquired has had the trigger messed with to get the weight of pull to a stupid weight of just over 1lb and I have had one heck of a job getting it up to around 2 1/2lbs. Once finances permit I will obtain a replacement trigger unit and set it up properly and safely.

    That is my limited understanding.

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