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    New to reloading - Please help!!

    Hello everyone,

    I was hope you would be kind enough to give me some of your time and advice. Iím completely new to reloading and have been reading some of the comments on here and looking around at my options, Iím trying to keep costs down to a minimum and as such was thinking of purchasing either the Lee Classic loader or the Lee Hand Press. I shoot a .243 Tikka T3 lite with 100g soft nose rounds either Winchester or Federal and the groups are not great (c. 1inc @ 100yrds), which ties in with some of the comments regarding the performance of 100gr bullets in a factor 1-10 twist rifle.

    I am thinking of reloading a 95gr Nosler BT round for use on Foxís, Roe, and Fallow. Iíve always kept my used brass and as such only need bullets, primers, and powder.

    Iím leaning towards the Lee Hand Press but would appreciate any advice either way and also on what basic equipment do I need to start reloading without breaking the bank!! And also if anyone has any advice regarding the bullet Iím thinking of, primers and powder. I was also wondering if there are any reloading manuals you could recommend?

    I know thatís a lot to ask at once!!! But any advice would be brilliant, thank you in advance..

    CPK

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    Get Lee's "Modern Reloading, Second Edition" before all else and read it. It will help you decide what equipment you need. Welcome to reloading!~Muir

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muir View Post
    Get Lee's "Modern Reloading, Second Edition" before all else and read it. It will help you decide what equipment you need. Welcome to reloading!~Muir
    Second that but don't forget your anorak

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    I started a couple of years ago and for a 243 the components I use are these:
    Vit 160 44grains, Sierra Gameking 85 grain, and CCI200 primers. It goes out of the barrel at 3100FPS.
    There is plenty of info on the net.
    http://www.ammosmith.com.
    Reloader's Nest - a reloaders resource
    Reloading, some basic questions answered and some good links

    I get my gear from Tim Hannam and Reloading solutions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPK View Post
    [FONT=Arial]Hello everyone, I was hope you would be kind enough to give me some of your time and advice. I’m leaning towards the Lee Hand Press but would appreciate any advice either way and also on what basic equipment do I need to start reloading without breaking the bank!!

    The first bit of advice I would give you is to ask yourself one question " How much do I actually shoot? ". Last week I picked up one tub of powder £46, 100 bullets £27, cases I have but would have cost me £25+ per 100 and of course primers £5 per 100. Lets say you can reload the cases five times for the ease of the matter. You will get about 130 rounds out of the powder, so thats £46/130 which is about 36p per round. Okay so each round would cost you after you have invested in reloading kit, 36p + 27p + 5p + 5p = 73p per round or £14.60 per box of 20. PPU are around £11 (Henry Kranks price list) per box, and you can sell the brass.
    If you only shoot 100 rounds a year, then think twice before investing in to reloading if your plan is to save money.
    Your not going to reload good ammo with a lee hand press, just forget the idea trust me! and like all other tools nothing any good comes cheap, bottom line is it's going to cost you atleast £180 to get a basic set up which is going to produce good ammo and that you will be happy to use. So, if a budget is the name of the game and you shoot less than 100 rounds per year, forget reloading.

    The second bit of advice, read read read and read more; before you go and buy any reloading equipment or you will end up making an expensive mistake.

    The last bit of advice, buy a good second hand RCBS press which will last you for years, these can be found for around £50. Buy a good set of reloading scales, RCBS 5-0-5 are not needed, you just need a good set of scales which can be purchased for around £30 second hand. A set of second hand Lee dies will get you going, £15. All the rest of the stuff (case cutters and the like do not cost much but set aside £50), so with luck you could get set up with quality kit for
    around £100 second hand.
    Last edited by old_realtree; 24-03-2011 at 19:07.

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    as old realtree said it can cost a fair bit to get set up in the first place the only thing I disagree with is in 243 you should get closer to 175 rounds from a pound of powder.

    I have a Lee classic cast press which I use to load 25-06, 222 and 223 it cost me £90 second hand and came with de-bur tool, load tray, lube pad, RCBS lube and primer pocket reamer, I bought second hand Lee collet dies for the 222 (£10) but now have Hornady new dimension dies for all calibres (£39 each new). I bought mitotoyo digital calipers from an engineering suppliers (£45) I bought second hand RCBS 505 scales (£40) a Wilson case trimmer from sinclairs international (£90) and an ultrasonic cleaner from Aldi (£17.99)

    if you intend to load alot of rounds it will eventually save you money try the link and it should show you if it is worth it in you circumstances.

    Rifle Cartridge Reloading Cost Calculator

    Rick

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    i have to disagree with old realtree some people have a budget and spending a large amount is great if you have lots of cash but you can definately load on a budget without dought. my classic loader cost me £16 whole pounds and will produce a load equal to friends using expensive presses and dies and you will definately not be able to tell looking at paper which produced which load so if you really are on a budget dont be fooled into thinking that you cant afford to reload . so if you are just reloading a few start off with a classicloader but if you need to do more think about a press as i do agree that secondhand gear is cheap and will last for years and definately worth the thaught if you can stretch to that .the upshot with a classic loader is you can make a good batch up before testing and take the classic loader with you and keep seating your bullet till you are happy while shooting . keep us posted on how you get on ,atb wayne

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    Real old tree............ it's not all about the gear, a re loader with a bit of skill & patience can produce very accurate loads for their rifle, with very limited gear,......... seen anyone re-loading at the ranges?

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    Quote Originally Posted by finnbear270 View Post
    Real old tree............ it's not all about the gear, a re loader with a bit of skill & patience can produce very accurate loads for their rifle, with very limited gear,......... seen anyone re-loading at the ranges?


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    Me! For the better part of last week working up inexpensive loads for a .222!~Muir

    (On simple equipment!)

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    Hi everyone,

    Thank you so much for your advice its greatly appreciated, plenty to think about and I’m now waiting for the Lee reloading manual to arrive!!

    Take care,
    CPK

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