nicholiath
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Hi, has anyone got any recipes for a light/comfy load for 125gn bullet in 30.06.
Hi, has anyone got any recipes for a light/comfy load for 125gn bullet in 30.06.
What sort of velocities should one expect for 110gn, 125gn, 130gn, etc <150gn? So as to put it in to the j0e_bl0ggs formulae. Cheers.
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I think this calculator leaves out a drag factor. Try this
WT x Velocity Squared x .000002215 = energy
I get about 2100 fps needed to eclipse 1000 ft/lbs (1034) ~Muir
According to the muzzle energy computer to achieve deer legal M.E you only need to push a 125gn bullet at 2500 fps.
Ok Muir, with you wishing to be pedantic as usual and score points, I will no longer help with these enquiries.
Drag factor ffs, why complicate things?
As long as the guy was reasonably sure of finding something that would be close enough why worry?
How many plod out there looking over the shoulder with a chrono in hand? How many actually chrono their home loads?
In an attempt to supply some simple info you successfully turn it into a can of worms.
A couple of asides;
You strike me as a 'gunwriter'
Do you work for Lee? You seem to advertise his wares continually.
I don't know about Plods. I don't worry about minimum requirements for velocity and energy because here we have no such requirements. It seems that you folks do tho. You Brits are constantly bickering about minimum velocities and energies. My Favorite? "the 6.5x55 with 160 grain bullets won't do 2400 fps so it isn't legal" one. (yawn!) I was simply concerned that the few fps would cause some kind of moral/legal/ tossing-and-turning-all- night-ethical problems for you guys if put to the test. The weight and velocity figures given fell 25 fps short of my own. I was just trying to help.
No. I don't work for Lee, but I do like their innovative approach to reloading gear and their book, especially. I make no secret about it. Anyone who has read it usually thinks so also: especially those who are willing to think for themselves instead of running to a web site for load data and answers to mundane, common reloading problems that are amply covered in any number of texts I've read. (Like, "is mixing different makes of brass OK?") You bet I like Lee's book. I also think Lee's bullet molds are delicate and second rate, their progressive presses are rickety, their scale difficult to use, and their powder measure pure junk if used with fine grained powder. Does that ease your suspicions?
I do some work within the firearms industry as a consultant, but my day job is as a Surgical Nurse. I retired from gunsmithing 15 years ago when -amongst other things- I got tired of working on other peoples' guns. I grew up in the company of an Uncle who was a gunsmith and an engineer. I was schooled and apprenticed in tool and die making before attending formal gunsmithing classes. When I realized that gunsmithing paid the shop bills, and groceries, but didn't allowed me to put away money for my children's education, I closed shop and returned to college for to pursue a more lucrative profession.
I do not remember a time when I wasn't shooting. My dad bought me my first rifle the day I was born and I'm told he put it over a stump and coaxed me to squeeze the trigger when I was three years old. I do remember shooting when I was five years old and I started hunting squirrels alone when I was 8 years old. I shoot every day the weather allows.
I load, or have loaded, for just under 100 different cartridges at last count, and have kept files of scattered notes on the odd ones over the years. I currently own a north of hundred firearms (more or less) of varying calibers and configurations but have probably owned over a thousand in my lifetime. I collect British and Finnish military rifles 1850 - 1950 within that group. I am an avid handgunner.
So there you are, Joe. That's my story. You beat it out of me: I hope you're satisfied.
Your turn. ~Muir
I know that they are in force, Oh Subservient One, that's why I bothered to make that post -because I don't personally care about exact energy levels for my own sake, but I know they do in the UK. If you think I'd waste time correcting you about 25 ft/lbs of energy just to be "right" you seriously don't know me well enough: I'm the guy who thinks weighing powder charges is a waste of time and that Lee Classic Loaders are the greatest for beginners. I think I am on the record here for being an advocate of novices keeping it simple, so I am not sure where their indigestion comes from.
If you don't like my "all the t-shirts" attitude remember is was you who started the pi$$ing match, not I. I thought you wanted my bio and you got it. It isn't boasting, it's just what is. If you don't like who I am I can't help you. If you feel intimidated, I can't help you. I have no problems with you even tho I suspect you got up on the wrong side of the bed this morning. Want me to quit posting? Just ask me to. In the mean time, relax a bit. It's Saturday and don't we take enough flak at work to last us for the weekend? Sheesh...~Muir