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  1. #1

    Does it really matter

    We all talk about different calibers and which is 'best'; however, from 50-200 yds, with almost any decent expanding bullet, placed in the vitals of the beast, will it really matter if it was shot from:

     .22-250 Remington
     .220 Russian
     .220 Swift
     .221 Remington Fireball
     .222 Remington
     .222 Remington Magnum
     .223 MINISAS
     .223 Remington
     .223 WSSM
     .224 Weatherby Magnum
     .225 Winchester
     .240 Weatherby Magnum
     .243 Winchester
     .243 WSSM
     .244 H&H Magnum
     .244 Remington
     .250-3000 Savage
     .256 Winchester Magnum
     .256 Newton
     .25-06 Remington
     .25-20 Winchester
     .25-35 Winchester
     .25 Remington
     .25 WSSM
     .257 Roberts
     .257 Weatherby Magnum
     .260 Remington
     .264 Winchester Magnum
     .270 Weatherby Magnum
     .270 Winchester
     .270 Winchester Short Magnum
     .270 Sabi
     .276 Enfield
     .276 Pedersen
     .280 British
     .280 Remington
     .280 Ross
     .284 Winchester
     .30 Carbine
     .30 Newton
     .30 RAR
     .30 Remington
     .30 Remington AR
     .30 TC
     .30-06 Springfield
     .30-30 Winchester
     .30-40 Krag (.30 Army)
     .30-378 Weatherby Magnum
     .300 H&H Magnum
     .300 Remington SA Ultra Mag
     .300 Remington Ultra Magnum
     .300 Ruger Compact Magnum
     .300 Savage
     .300 Weatherby Magnum
     .300 Winchester Magnum
     .300 Winchester Short Magnum
     .303 British
     .303 Savage
     .307 Winchester
     .308 Marlin Express
     .308 Norma Magnum
     .308 Winchester
     .32 Remington
     .32 Winchester Self-Loading
     .32 Winchester Special
     .32-20 Winchester (.32 WCF, .32-20 Marlin, .32 Colt Lightning)
     .32-40 Ballard
     .32-40 Winchester
     .325 WSM (Winchester Short Magnum)
     .33 Winchester (.33 WCF)
     .33-40 Pope
     .333 Jeffery
     .333 Jeffery Flanged
     .338 Federal
     .338 Lapua Magnum
     .338 Marlin express
     .338 Remington Ultra Magnum
     .338 Ruger Compact Magnum
     .338 Sabi
     .338 Winchester Magnum
     .338-06 A-Square
     .338-378 Weatherby Magnum
     .340 Weatherby Magnum
     .348 Winchester
     .35 Newton
     .35 Remington
     .35 Whelen
     .35 Whelen Improved
     .35 Winchester
     .35 Winchester Self-Loading
     .350 Remington Magnum
     .351 Winchester Self-Loading
     .356 Winchester
     .358 Norma Magnum
     .358 Winchester
     .375 H&H Magnum
     .375 Remington Ultra Magnum
     .375 Ruger
     .375 Weatherby Magnum
     .375 Whelen (.375-06)
     .375 Winchester
     .376 Steyr
     .378 Weatherby Magnum
     .38-40 Winchester
     .38-55 Winchester

    In reality, some of us spend thousands of pounds on custom job calibers and rifles that will never be used in competition, and really, any semi-decent rifle in any of the above calibers would probably do the job equally well...sometimes I reflect and start to worry if we're becoming too obsessed with our gear, and less on the joy of the stalk, practice, and monies that could be invested better elsewhere (stalking ground rents, ground improvements, beer, putting more pheasants down, days at the range, etc. etc.)...

    rant over....

  2. #2
    Inclined to agree.

  3. #3
    ...and that's not including all the metric calibres
    "It's halfway down the hill, directly below that tree next to a rock that looks like a bell-end"

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  4. #4
    Um, Yes? I do agree, (speaking as a keyboard warrior with a miniscule amount of experience in comparison to others here) that people do get obsessed and some have lots of money to spend on being silly and getting toys. (Means that I can afford a customised rifle in 3 years time when they sell it. I am of the tightwad variety and am very happy with my factory rifle which will consistently hit 3/4 moa so provided that I remember to lift my leg whilst lying prone..and not standing (See a different post) breathe correctly and all the other things that you do, then yes, shot placement should do it. For me I am happy to shoot Roe. If it was a larger species I would want it to be closer

    I think that other calibres can do it more effectively allowing a bit more margin of error.

    So if you know your capabilities and the capabilities of your rifle then in theory you should be able to bring most things down. However there are many people that do not understand their capabilities or their rifles capabilities and that is where the advice begins.

    But which is best...............phaw, I'm not getting involved in that
    I can speak in-depth and with great knowledge about most subjects until some bugger who actually knows what he is speaking about opens his gob .

  5. #5
    Is .30 Carbine deer legal in factory loadings? Might really matter.

  6. #6
    Technology moves on and we have to move with it don't we?

    Any up to date clay pigeon shooter worth his salt knows that clay pigeons simply will not break unless your chokes are brightly coloured and stick out of the end of your 32" plus barrels at least 3/4", your ultra high velocity cartridges kick enough to give a dead man a headache and when not being shot your gun must always be rested on a little leather pad that attaches to your shoe laces!!

    Modern riflemen now understand that nothing will die unless shot with a ultra high B.C. plastic tipped bullet travelling at mach 5 fired from a shiny heavy barrel and aimed by a scope that looks like a black trombone. All animals that die when fired upon with lesser, more antiquated kit, merely die from laughing

    And we musn't forget that no bird that flies can be brought down with anything less than full choke and at least 36 grams of fours, oh and the cartridge box must mention "high" in its description of intended use.


  7. #7
    Glad to see .22-250 in its rightful place in the No.1 slot!!!

  8. #8
    well a nissan micra does the same jobs as a audi r8 (which does not go on a track) but given the funds which would most pick.stav

  9. #9
    its a hobby, we spend disposable income on it, do what makes us happy, if thats chasing cloverleaves (me included in this), then so be it. If you want to use a tatty old rifle and thats what you like, then do so. end of.. its not just about stalking deer for me, its the whole package, excuse to go to some beautiful place, learn about a subject, watch animals, learn field craft, the list goes on. Deer stalking is a collective word which means different things to all of us. For me, its a phrase used to bring all of these interests together at the same place and time.

  10. #10
    well said flyingfisherman

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