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    the cost of lamps

    i have recently just bought myself a new lamp and i must admit i think we get well and truly shafted when it comes to the cost of lamps. a few years ago you used to be able to pick up these cheap rechargable 1 million candle power lamps usually bright yellow the beam was good enough but the battery only lasted 20mins costing about 15quid but to buy the same thing from somone like lightforce which plugs into a cigar lighter costs over 100 quid or take for instance these new led lights you can go into a petrol station and buy a cheap little led torch for about 4 quid as soon as you mount a led light to a rifle it then zooms upto over 100 again. i know there are a few differnces in the products ive metioned but is there really that much differnce in manufacturing cost or are we just getting shafted as lampers and if anyone is in any confusion as to weather i am just imagioning this have a look at the clulite website first look at the clu-briter hand held light which isnt aimed at lampers, but is more than capable for foxing and is priced at 48 the have a look at the masterlight supreme which is almost the same spec but aimed at lampers and now we have a 120 price tag

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    if you know where to shop then you can pick stuff up at quarter of the price.

    For instance the Cree Surefire is a 21 (inc p&p) torch from China.

    Buy the Clulite equivalent and you pay 4x that.
    There is a place on this planet for all of God's creatures, right next to my tatties and gravy!!!

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    Funny old world isn't it, I have had a Clu-briter for six months or so now and think it's great.
    2 weeks ago I decided to buy the Master light as well, first one didn't work properly, shop changed it
    without a problem, new one lasted 1 trip and the pressure switch packed up, changed that.
    Friday night it started only coming on half power, finished the night shooting one handed while using the clu-briter with the other.
    Took the lamp back on Saturday morning to see what the shop said, the answer, it's up to you mate, but I'd ask me for a refund. Lol
    I did so and am now using a cheap 900 lumen Surefire.

    Neil.

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    I've always been impressed with the Clulite gear. It is all made in England which we should try to support rather than over in China. That's going to add cost. They are easily contactable and have sent me spares FOC in the past. The only drawback is the lack of dimmer on my CB2.

    Shooters are a tiny market and if we expect products made just for our use (light, scope mounted, dimmable) then we are going to have to pay more than for some cheap Chineese rubbish from a petrol station. The Clulite hand-held rechargeable is clearly made [at least in part] for lamping - filters are available. Would be heavy fixed to your scope!

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    There was a large debate about this a while ago on this forum. I use a certain website that will sell me a torch for about 13 delivered. 6 for a figure of 8 from the uk. Gets a rats tail (pressure switch) for a few quid and a rechargable battery. I got a good one which I think cost me 10. Total cost just over 30. 20 minutes with a drill and solder.
    It will spot eyeshine to 200 yards, is really tight beam. In fact I bought 1/2 a dozen and all my rifles have one mounted so I never have to think about moving from one rifle t oanother.
    If one breaks I will just replace with a new torch. So far they work really well.
    I can speak in-depth and with great knowledge about most subjects until some bugger who actually knows what he is speaking about opens his gob .

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    I use the clubriter. Excellent lamp, capable, compact, good battery and great price, including a car charger!!!!!!!

    Wouldnt look back

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    Quote Originally Posted by sir-lamp-alot View Post
    i have recently just bought myself a new lamp and i must admit i think we get well and truly shafted when it comes to the cost of lamps. a few years ago you used to be able to pick up these cheap rechargable 1 million candle power lamps usually bright yellow the beam was good enough but the battery only lasted 20mins costing about 15quid but to buy the same thing from somone like lightforce which plugs into a cigar lighter costs over 100 quid or take for instance these new led lights you can go into a petrol station and buy a cheap little led torch for about 4 quid as soon as you mount a led light to a rifle it then zooms upto over 100 again. i know there are a few differnces in the products ive metioned but is there really that much differnce in manufacturing cost or are we just getting shafted as lampers and if anyone is in any confusion as to weather i am just imagioning this have a look at the clulite website first look at the clu-briter hand held light which isnt aimed at lampers, but is more than capable for foxing and is priced at 48 the have a look at the masterlight supreme which is almost the same spec but aimed at lampers and now we have a 120 price tag
    It's usually a lot to do with overall build quality but mostly to do with the LED. The cheaper and older LED's don't last because of the heat being generated by the unit and they also don't have the same output (in lumens). The reflectors are also not specifically matched to the LED (very important to get the correct beam hot spot and side spill) The newer LED's and torches don't suffer from these problems. It is not unusual for a new LED from Cree or Luminus to last for 50,000 hrs.

    Go and try these people at JETBEAM UK. They import jetbeam torches into the UK. I have a BC40 on my pest control rifle (CZ452 .22 rimmie) and it's brilliant Have a look on the forum for STEVIENICKNACKS and drop him a PM. He's using their stuff. What I did was to ring the bloke up and asked if there was any special deals going. He said no probs and dropped 10% off the price straight away. Tell him that you are on the SD forum cos he's also on here somewhere. He's ok and he gave me a shed load of good advice. He's a shooter as well and knows his stuff

    If it helps

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    it take all your comments on board but to be honest i still cant see why we pay so much more for our so called specialist kit i think if nothing else comes from this post at least it opens peoples eyes to new outlets to get our kit from

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    The component parts of a Lightforce lamp must cost no more than 10 but they charge 100+ for them... smoke and mirrors?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RED-DOT View Post
    The component parts of a Lightforce lamp must cost no more than 10 but they charge 100+ for them... smoke and mirrors?
    Yep, I'm using the BC40 with weapon mount and remoite switch its a great bit of kit that is very well built and the company are great to deal with. A few chaps have contacted me about it and bought one so its not just me that thinks they are good. I've had a masterlite and this out performs it on all fronts including battery life.

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