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Thread: Can anyone recommend a range in Northamptonshire......?

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    Can anyone recommend a range in Northamptonshire......?

    Hello all, I have offered to take a good friend out for his first stalking experience for his 50th, my only issue is that whilst he is a shooting man, he has only had experience of shotguns. I need to find somewhere where we can get him having a few shots at a target before heading out in the field, unfortunately the land I stalk on isn't really accomodating for this purpose so I was hoping someone might be able to suggest a suitable facility in Northamptonshire (not my local patch hence asking for advice).......
    Your help would be appreciated.

    Cheers

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    i think sywell range caters for rifles, tel 01604 642252/781741 if not they might be able to suggest one regards tony

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    Quote Originally Posted by deerstalker.308 View Post
    Hello all, I have offered to take a good friend out for his first stalking experience for his 50th, my only issue is that whilst he is a shooting man, he has only had experience of shotguns. I need to find somewhere where we can get him having a few shots at a target before heading out in the field, unfortunately the land I stalk on isn't really accomodating for this purpose so I was hoping someone might be able to suggest a suitable facility in Northamptonshire (not my local patch hence asking for advice)....... Your help would be appreciated.

    Cheers
    Where do you go to check zero?

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    you can by all means come to my patch and have a shot ,live on the shoot give me a pm
    regards norma

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    If I understand you right ..... he doesn't have a ticket at all, and you're looking for a club range?

    In that case the Home Office rules are that non-FAC holders can only shoot on a registered 'Guest Day' by invitation and under supervision of a current member.

    I can't imagine what the regime is on an MOD range - it's probably much worse.

    As for a few practice shots on private land - that's an offence.

    Sorry, but it doesn't sound very easy to help your pal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinistral View Post
    ..............
    As for a few practice shots on private land - that's an offence.

    Sorry, but it doesn't sound very easy to help your pal.
    Sinistral, I don't think thats right, is it? Surely under the 'estate rifle' clause, Deerstalkers mate could use Norma's rifle, as long as Norma was present and any other FAC restrictions on Norma's ticket were met?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tom_Ov View Post
    Sinistral, I don't think thats right, is it? Surely under the 'estate rifle' clause, Deerstalkers mate could use Norma's rifle, as long as Norma was present and any other FAC restrictions on Norma's ticket were met?
    4 rifles to choose from and i would be present no problem if i can help i will
    regards
    norma

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    Quote Originally Posted by norma 308 View Post
    4 rifles to choose from and i would be present no problem if i can help i will
    regards
    norma
    No, I hadn't lost sight of the 'Estate Rifle' clause, but that exemption is narrower than you might think.It's what it says below.

    I don't think it applies here. I believe that historically it was designed for Scottish sporting estates who had foreign stalking clients over, who could then borrow the stalkers' rifle. Anyway.... is Norma 308 the 'Occupier' in law?

    Borrowed rifles on private premises
    6.16
    Section 16(1) of the 1988 Act enables a
    person to borrow a rifle from the occupier
    of private premises and to use it on those
    premises in the presence of either the
    occupier
    or their servant without holding a
    firearm certificate in respect of that rifle. It
    should be noted that this gives slightly more
    flexibility in the use of a borrowed rifle than
    is permissible with the use of a shot gun
    as described in paragraph 6.14, in that the
    borrowed rifle can also be used in the
    presence of the servant of the occupier.
    However, the occupier and/or their servant
    must hold a firearm certificate in respect of
    the firearm being used, and the borrower,
    who must be accompanied by the certificate
    holder (whether it is the occupier or their
    servant), must comply with the conditions
    of the certificate. These may include a
    safekeeping requirement and, in some cases,
    territorial restrictions. Section 57(4) of the
    1968 Act defines “premises” as including any
    land. The effect of the provision is to allow
    a person visiting a private estate to borrow
    and use a rifle without a certificate. The
    exemption does not extend to persons under
    the age of 17 or to other types of firearm.
    There is no notification required on the
    loan of a firearm under these circumstances.
    A borrowed rifle should not be specifically
    identified as such on a “keeper’s” or
    “landowner’s” firearm certificate. The term
    “in the presence of” is not defined in law
    but is generally interpreted as being within
    sight and earshot.

    6.17

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    Fair points Sinistral. However;

    1) While that may have been the original intention, its certainly used all over the UK now

    2) For all I know, Norma owns half of Northamptonshire, in which case I don't think there's an issue.
    Last edited by Tom_Ov; 21-07-2011 at 09:32. Reason: Speling

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    I believe the "or their servant" statement means anyone who has a lease or permission from the landowner to shoot there can use the estate rifle clause.

    Chris
    Life should be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving skidding in sideways, Merlot in one hand, Cigar in the other, body thoroughly used up, totally worn out and screaming WOO HOO what a ride!

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