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    What a load of nonsense.

    Farmer lands in a spot of bother over a pocket Knife.

    http://www.thescottishfarmer.co.uk/n...-end-1.1108620

    They've got to be having a Laugh !!!!!!

    Rgds, Buck.
    "let him without sin cast the first stone"





  2. #2
    similar story in Denmark. Carpet layer left his tools in the van after work hours, then used the van to drive to the supermarket, where two officers spotted a hobby-knife in the van.,,obviously used during his normal working habits, etc. he was arrested and sentenced to 3 yrs....

    If the police searches a punk on the streets, gang members, etc. they will confiscate the knife, give them an overnight stay and release them with a warning...

    now who's the actual enemy of the state here?

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by PKL View Post

    If the police searches a punk on the streets, gang members, etc. they will confiscate the knife, give them an overnight stay and release them with a warning...
    Not so, anyone arrested in those circumstances would remain in custody until their court appearance; the police have no discretion in this area, the Scottish government has given explicit instructions. Back in April a special constable heading off on holiday from Prestwick Airport was found with a knife - custody until court then special constable no more.

    A farmer paying a fine has no more "good cause" to take a lock-knife into the court building than has Bawbag "Mental" McScumface when he goes in to see what sentence his mate is going to get.

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    I was on a prosecutions course for fire service inspecting officers some years ago, and as part of the course we had a day at the main law courts in Cardiff where we had to play act by giving evidence regarding various scenarios we had been dealing with earlier in the week. There were about twelve of us on the course including instructors and facilitators. We turned up at the main entrance and had to go through the metal detectors after turning out our pockets. Only the barrister who was going to cross examine us and one of the serving inspecting officers was not carrying a knife, as a knife (usually locking) is a tool of the trade. The security guys were originally going to hold them until we came out but there were just too many for them to hold on to so they told us to keep them because as they put it if they couldn’t trust us who could they trust.

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    SD Regular Join DateAug 2007LocationWengland (The Marches)Posts1,249
    I was on a prosecutions course for fire service inspecting officers some years ago, and as part of the course we had a day at the main law courts in Cardiff where we had to play act by giving evidence regarding various scenarios we had been dealing with earlier in the week. There were about twelve of us on the course including instructors and facilitators. We turned up at the main entrance and had to go through the metal detectors after turning out our pockets. Only the barrister who was going to cross examine us and one of the serving inspecting officers was not carrying a knife, as a knife (usually locking) is a tool of the trade. The security guys were originally going to hold them until we came out but there were just too many for them to hold on to so they told us to keep them because as they put it if they couldn’t trust us who could they trust.
    Yeah, there we go again "ONE RULE FOR SOME ANOTHER FOR THE REST OF US"!( nothing personal 8x57)
    Last edited by CWMMAN3738; 21-07-2011 at 22:11. Reason: clarifacation

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    look at every cop you see on the street most of them are carrying leathermen or gerber multi tools all lockable blades ,where do the rules start and stop .

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    Not all Leatherman have locking blades. I have a wave that doesn't, and that goes everywhere in my pocket. It's a tool that I use several times a day, and not having it would make life difficult sometimes. If I were to wave it in someone's face then I'd expect to be banged up for it, but otherwise I think I have a perfectly good reason to carry it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by widows son View Post
    look at every cop you see on the street most of them are carrying leathermen or gerber multi tools all lockable blades ,where do the rules start and stop .
    Exactley
    who is going to do a citizen's arrest on a serving police man/woman in work clothing

    NO-ONE

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    I wish someone would and that enough people would back them, it's about time the police realised that they are there to enforce the law, not that they are the law. At the end of the day they need to remember they are public servents there to do our will not their's something politicians would also do well to remember i think.

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    "Tougher penalties on knives announced by Lord Advocate

    First-time offenders caught in possession of a knife are to face longer prison sentences."


    See www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-14244257 for chapter and verse. The Scottish government isn't kidding on this, basically do not have any knife (other than a small folding pocket knife) in your possession unless you can show "good cause" to have it with you in that place at that time. Forgetting that you have it in your pocket when you go into a court building or an airport terminal is not an excuse, as people have found to their cost.

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