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    243 next one up

    Im just wondering what is the best caliber to use on fallow and red deer.My FAC is in for renewal and the FAC officer has been today and suggested that i put a bigger caliber on my ticket as it wont cost any more at this present time and keep my 243 as well. he suggested 25.06
    6mm i dont now what is best a little help would be greatley appreciated.

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    Just my opinion but if you already have a .243 then would probably go for something a bit more bigger ,if that makes sense.
    .308 or 30-06 just the jobbie for the larger species.
    Brough.

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    even though i shoot 243 and 7mm08 i used to own a 270 when i shot alot of reds and its a perfect large deer rifle

    kris

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    243 and 270 are a classic combination to cover all Uk eventualities

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    agree with the last couple of posts.
    2506 is very close to .243 and max bullet of 120.
    look at 6.5, .270, 7mm, and the .30's also

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    I have a .243 and a 30.06 that covers me for everything in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PDP123 View Post
    My FAC is in for renewal and the FAC officer has been today and suggested that i put a bigger caliber on my ticket as it wont cost any more at this present time and keep my 243 as well.

    Now that's refreshing!!!

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    Very little difference between .243 & 25.06. I think you'd be better of get'n a .308, as already mentioned just the tool for the

    larger Deer.

    Rgds, Buck.
    "let him without sin cast the first stone"





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    Quote Originally Posted by 177landy View Post
    I have a .243 and a 30.06 that covers me for everything in this country.
    That is probably the best combination for use in UK and covers Wild Boar and Plains game.

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    I don't know if I agree entirely with the comments about the 25-06 being not much of a step up based on the bullet weight argument.

    It's the speed that the bullet is sent at that makes the difference! A 25-06 is capable of far greater velocities with 100grn bullets than a .243 is, therefore imparting far greater ft/lbs on the beast.

    I sometimes wonder if few actually bother to look at ballistic tables because if you did you may be surprised at some of the figures. Here are some below to consider, lifted from the 6th Edition Hornady Manual. The figures to keep it fair are the top ones listed for any given bullet weight and its respective velocity.

    All figures are based on the 'real world' distance of 100yds and not at the muzzle. I chose these bullet weights as we are discussing the next step up from a .243

    100grn .243 - 2752fps, 1681 ft/lbs. 1.6" high at 100yds, on at 200yds.

    140grn 6.5x55 - 2432fps, 1839 ft/lbs. 2.2" high at 100yds, on at 200yds

    120grn 25-06 - 2760fps, 2029ft/lbs. 1.5" high at 100yds, on at 200yds.

    150grn .308 - 2447fps, 1994ft/lbs. 2.2" high at 100yds, on at 200yds.

    If no-one disputes these figures, can it be explained why as suggested the 6.5x55 or a .308 is necessarily a better step up from a .243 please than the 25-06? And lets remember the original post asked for comments relating to fallow/red stalking. Sika stags take more killing than either of those in my experience and I shot most of my sika (70 plus per year) with a 25-06. I may concede that woodland stalking compared to open hill may benefit from one of the larger calibres but not necessarily in general terms as has been asked for on this thread.

    There is a massive difference between a .243 and a .25-06!

    If I was you and to save on the expense of another set up (if that matters), I would consider swapping the .243 for a 25-06 and leaving it at that.

    Have a look at some ballistic tables and see what it can do with bullets from 75grn up to 120grn. It is a really versatile calibre for all stalking or fox applications in this country.
    Last edited by jamross65; 26-07-2011 at 12:10.

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