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    Night Vision

    i have been reading the draft guidance to marksman in the proposed badger cull. i am not wanting to ignite a debate on the rights and wrongs of the cull, and would like some opinions regarding the use of Night Vision Scopes. The following paragraph is taken from the document:

    Image intensifying (‘night sights’) or infra-red sighting devices used as sights on a rifle are prohibited under the Wildlife and Countryside Act and there is a presumption against them being licensed for this type of shooting because of safety considerations. An image intensifier may be useful, however, for scanning and spotting animals prior to shooting with a lamp, to reduce the disturbance from use of the spotlight. Searching for badgers with night-sights immediately prior to attempting to or actually killing them is likely to need a licence.

    Am i right in thinking that night vision would make the shooting safer? would it allow the shooter to see everything rather than only what is in the spotlight? and i am fairly certain that the animal will not be disturbed by lights being put on them?

    thanks
    Last edited by JimG; 29-08-2011 at 11:20. Reason: typing error and bad grammar!

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    badgers are round arsed things , they cant sit still , and if youve been culling them in a lamp for a while i would think they would learn about that job same as anything , searching for them with nv would seem a good idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimG View Post


    Image intensifying (‘night sights’) or infra-red sighting devices used as sights on a rifle are prohibited under the Wildlife and Countryside Act and there is a presumption against them being licensed for this type of shooting because of safety considerations. An image intensifier may be useful, however, for scanning and spotting animals prior to shooting with a lamp, to reduce the disturbance from use of the spotlight. Searching for badgers with night-sights immediately prior to attempting to or actually killing them is likely to need a licence.


    thanks
    not sure this is true. plenty of foxes and rabbits shot using NV. legally as far as i am aware.

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    badger laws are different to fox and rabbit , you cant nv deer or birds can you

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    the paragraph i have quoted is draft guidance to marksman involved in the badger cull in england. it seems to me that a valuable tool will not be licensed, because of 'safety considerations'. what these considerations are, i don't really know. i personally feel that NV would give the marksman time to take a well placed shot at the animal that hasn't been startled by a lamp

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    NV is an excellent tool when used with all the usual safety consideration, i.e positive identification of your quary, safe back stop, not just a hedge, bracken etc. I've used it for rabbits and foxes, neither knew I was there before they stopped living. However, I can envisage a situation where some one could get hurt if they were hiding in undergrowth, waiting to pop up when a lamp went on! bubble

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    Quote Originally Posted by trouble View Post
    badger laws are different to fox and rabbit , you cant nv deer or birds can you
    the paragraph didnt mention quarry

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    Rabbit away here somewhere (excuse the pun)! If night sights were illegal for fox or rabbit I suspect some of the good folks using them in countless magazines might have been prosecuted by now?!?!?

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    Having personally used a variety of NV mainly US gen 3,I have seen countless badgers and true to form they do move quickly ,hardly ever sitting still, for long enough to take a shot for culling purposes.
    However I find that trapping the badger, would be more effective,I find the paragraph containing the use of night vision in the document to be conflicting.a Licence being required what nonsense. what it comes down to is s.

    "Image intensifying (‘night sights’) or infra-red sighting devices used as sights on a rifle are prohibited under the Wildlife and Countryside Act and there is a presumption against them being licensed for this type of shooting because of safety considerations. An image intensifier may be useful, however, for scanning and spotting animals prior to shooting with a lamp, to reduce the disturbance from use of the spotlight. Searching for badgers with night-sights immediately prior to attempting to or actually killing them is likely to need a licence".

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    Having just read a good chunk of the wildlife and countryside act I can verify that use of NV sights for taking schedule 5 and 6 animals (badger is sched 6) is prohibited. So, however, is the use of artificial light, so go figure!!!

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