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Thread: Austrian Black and Tan Hound (Branldebracke)

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    Austrian Black and Tan Hound (Branldebracke)

    Hello all,
    I have a Brandlebracke (one year old) that i am currently training, the dog was rescued from termination, untrained never named or execised, kept in a run and fed.
    A quick chat with previous owner an exchange of cash and now a happy, biddable inteligent hound showing very strong hunting, tracking behaviour, willing to learn and please.
    On the advice of my father i have started to encorage this natural talent and train as a deer dog.

    However I am finding it very hard to find any information about the breed other than size colouring lifespan
    the majority of useful info seems to be in german, of wich mine is limited to ordering a beer and carry out.

    Any information would be greatly apreciated, also tracking book recomendations as i have only trained gun dogs before.

    Many thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandlebracke View Post
    Hello all,
    I have a Brandlebracke (one year old) that i am currently training, the dog was rescued from termination, untrained never named or execised, kept in a run and fed.
    A quick chat with previous owner an exchange of cash and now a happy, biddable inteligent hound showing very strong hunting, tracking behaviour, willing to learn and please.
    On the advice of my father i have started to encorage this natural talent and train as a deer dog.

    However I am finding it very hard to find any information about the breed other than size colouring lifespan
    the majority of useful info seems to be in german, of wich mine is limited to ordering a beer and carry out.

    Any information would be greatly apreciated, also tracking book recomendations as i have only trained gun dogs before.

    Many thanks in advance.
    Congratulations, you got a very fine and rarte hound. Have only ever seen one working and it was extremely impressive.

    As for books to read, elsewhere on the site you will find a list I put together for a friend. That with the other posts is about everything there is in english.
    If you speak german than the list becomes as long as your arm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandlebracke View Post
    Hello all,
    I have a Brandlebracke (one year old) that i am currently training, the dog was rescued from termination, untrained never named or execised, kept in a run and fed.
    A quick chat with previous owner an exchange of cash and now a happy, biddable inteligent hound showing very strong hunting, tracking behaviour, willing to learn and please.
    On the advice of my father i have started to encorage this natural talent and train as a deer dog.

    However I am finding it very hard to find any information about the breed other than size colouring lifespan
    the majority of useful info seems to be in german, of wich mine is limited to ordering a beer and carry out.

    Any information would be greatly apreciated, also tracking book recomendations as i have only trained gun dogs before.

    Many thanks in advance.
    Forgot to add there is an BB Association http://www.bracken.at. Suggest you send them an email in english asking for advice. They most likely will be very helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brandlebracke View Post
    Hello all,
    I have a Brandlebracke (one year old) that i am currently training, the dog was rescued from termination, untrained never named or execised, kept in a run and fed.
    A quick chat with previous owner an exchange of cash and now a happy, biddable inteligent hound showing very strong hunting, tracking behaviour, willing to learn and please.
    On the advice of my father i have started to encorage this natural talent and train as a deer dog.

    However I am finding it very hard to find any information about the breed other than size colouring lifespan
    the majority of useful info seems to be in german, of wich mine is limited to ordering a beer and carry out.

    Any information would be greatly apreciated, also tracking book recomendations as i have only trained gun dogs before.

    Many thanks in advance.
    Apologies, still half asleep. If you send me a pm with your email address I will try to put you in touch with the dutch owner of the BB I saw working. He can give you lots of practical advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikashooter View Post
    I really enjoyed watching that! Cracking wee dogs. No matter how many dogs I have had or litters of pups, it still makes me laugh when they do daft things like try and climb over that log!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by barongcw View Post
    Apologies, still half asleep. If you send me a pm with your email address I will try to put you in touch with the dutch owner of the BB I saw working. He can give you lots of practical advice.

    Baron

    I watched the video that Sikashooter posted and saw the handler tracking on the lead and then removing it and allowing the dog to hunt free. Is that common in the way to hunt with Hanoverians as well? My GWP does exactly the same thing when she finds one. Runs back to me and allows me to follow her in.

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    I thought that chap with the tracking lead looked like freddy cruger ha ha Nice dogs and they look useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamross65 View Post
    Baron

    I watched the video that Sikashooter posted and saw the handler tracking on the lead and then removing it and allowing the dog to hunt free. Is that common in the way to hunt with Hanoverians as well? My GWP does exactly the same thing when she finds one. Runs back to me and allows me to follow her in.
    I have the impression but it is always difficult to guess somebody elses intentions that the "hunting loose" bit was done for the film. The distance was so short that he handler could almost have seen the pig.
    If you follow the precise instructions for the training the hound should only be slipped when the wounded deer has been seen or heard moving out of its woundbed and AFTER the woundbed has been inspected for blood etc to make certain it is from the wounded deer. The famous hetze.
    But a great many hunters, I am one of them, if they have an old experienced hound, let it hunt loose at the end. As you saw she came back to tell her handler that she had found something. No bringsel or totverbellen. Well done for both of them.

    So if your hound does the same, let him but make certain he is looking for a dead deer. If it is a legshot he may be in for a long chase and you will spend a few days trying to find your hound. That is unless he has GPS.
    Last edited by barongcw; 02-10-2011 at 09:53.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sikashooter View Post
    Excellent bit of film.

    I noticed it was from the German Tirolerbracken club. Do not know if that is the same as a Brandlebracken. Not that it makes much difference.
    Also picked up other bits in the film I did not know about this breed.
    Only 800 in the world, 200 in Germany. Of these 200 on 20 are on the clubs approved breeding list. They get on that list only after the have passed at least 2nd prize in the working test. The club has a breedmaster. 30 pups per year. Breed originally used for hare and fox, "but they also track deer and boar".
    Lastly the tracker talked about Verweisen, my hobby. That is teaching the hound to stop and show you that he has found hair, blood and/or bone whilst tracking. Very useful as it confirms to are on the right track.
    Last edited by barongcw; 02-10-2011 at 10:05.

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