The point i was getting at really, was that it`s good to see these type of programmes on the tele, and yes, we have had other similar progs like Gordan Ramseys F word and Hugh Fearnley Wittingstall, which i do personally enjoy, as well as the other cookery programmes showing where there ingredients come from, but channel 4 in my opinion don`t seem to shy away from the gory side, "if you like" as much as the beeb. Whatever happened to Clarisa and the countryman, maybe not to everyones like, but showing countryside issuse and traditions none the less. I used to watch a programme after school, well over 20 years back now, this series was called Brendan chase, about three brothers that ran away to the woods, lived in a tree, and survived on what they shot with an old .22 and snared etc. This programme has never ever been repeated, unlike lots of other kids shows, maybe this programme is a little too close to the knuckle nowadays for some of our nanny stated kids.