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    Undertaking Road Traffic Accident Work

    Are there any members that do road traffic accident work (humane dispatch) for the police or local council and if so whats the score?!

    I have been shooting for years now and if there is an incident near to where I live, local people usually call me to sort out wounded muntjac deer after they hit them with their cars.


    One from last night - the car which hit it did'nt look great either!

    Question 1) How do you stand legally if you are not registered as the 'dispatch man' - I usually use a knife or take the deer to private property (if its not already there) - as I know most of the land owners & it usually only takes a quick phone call to gain permission to shoot something wounded on thier land.

    Question 2) Although I feel its almost my duty as a deer stalker to help out when I can - if I register with the police / council should I be charging for my service ~ when your in bed or out for a meal and the phone rings and you have to go and sort a deer out, usually in winter, in the dark & when its rainning ~ it aint what I would call fun.

    Question 3) Do you need special insurance? I bet my BASC insurance would'nt cover dispatching deer for the police on the side of the road! (thats if its legal and the case if you are instructed to do so)

    I do quite a few after the clocks change in winter (usually in places where they cant be stalked / controlled) that I have gainned the correct tools of the trade for the job and even have a little bag ready to go with my gear ~ the question is should I make it formal?


    Nitro.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitroexpress View Post
    Question 3) Do you need special insurance? I bet my BASC insurance would'nt cover dispatching deer for the police on the side of the road! [I](thats if its legal and the case if you are instructed to do so)
    BASC do offer additional insurance (for no extra charge), but you have to apply for it in addition to your standard membership.

    Humane Despatch of Animals - Insurance Information & Form

    As to your other questions different police forces have different policies as as who they call to deal with deer rtas, but that isn't something that I have experience of, like you I have just dealt with a few that I have discovered or friends/neighbours have called me about.

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    Calling Monkey Spanker, calling Monkey Spanker

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    Hi Dale

    We covered this a fair bit whilst doing DSC1 a copule of weeks ago. The advice we were given was if doing any was to register the with police to do it officially as members of the pulic with no knowledge can be watching. The RSPCA prosectuted some one for dispatching a wounded deer on the roadside with a knife following a complint from a spectator.

    Jim

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimo View Post
    Hi Dale

    We covered this a fair bit whilst doing DSC1 a copule of weeks ago. The advice we were given was if doing any was to register the with police to do it officially as members of the pulic with no knowledge can be watching. The RSPCA prosectuted some one for dispatching a wounded deer on the roadside with a knife following a complint from a spectator.

    Jim
    If done right a knife is 9 times out of 10 better than using a pistol and much safer - I hope common sense came into play and the person who dispatched the deer was let off. Proberly the only person there which knows what to do - the public I deal with are usually happy that someone can handle the situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitroexpress View Post
    If done right a knife is 9 times out of 10 better than using a pistol and much safer - I hope common sense came into play and the person who dispatched the deer was let off. Proberly the only person there which knows what to do - the public I deal with are usually happy that someone can handle the situation.
    Thats the worrying bit. Common sense did not come into it and the RSPCA were sucessfull with their prosecution. Most folk are sensible but it only takes one prat to cause a lot of grief.

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    [QUOTE=Nitroexpress;286965]If done right a knife is 9 times out of 10 better than using a pistol and much safer -

    And imho that is where alot of people kick up a Fuss "using a knife" believe it or not my first rta i was called to was for that said reason, a local Stalker/keeper was going to use a Knife god knows why. If asked to attend one i allways take my Rifle and .410 shotgun and the .410 is the one i use 99.9% But this has allready has been covered on the forum before.

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    I'm not keen on using a rifle unless its making an exit on three legs at a distance or something like that - I know of a guy who shot a wounded boar at close range after the dog man had tracked it down. With the dog man / dog standing next to him (in a position we all would have thought to be safe) he dispatched the animal only for the dog near his feet to roll over dead! A piece of jacket had come back at them and when striaght through the heart of the dog killinging it instantly. That a true story and something I always think about because that bullet will penetrate an animal so eaisly and if it hits something hard behind pieces of bullet are going to go somewhere - maybe back through and into you or someone else!

    Knife or humane dispatch pistol - its need not be a 'spectator sport' and maybe best if you just say do you mind standing over there (out of sight) while I dispatch it humanely & respectfully.

    RSPCA - these guys are trying to relieve suffering not cause it, no dout they would try and put wheels on a munti's back end feed it with a dropper or something - bloody do gooders ~ spend some time with the people who know and respect deer and you will learn a thing or two!

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    +1 Boyd.

    How is a Knife safer 9 times out of 10 than a pistol/Humane killer? Are you using it right?

    On the subject of the RSPCA, Don't tar them all with the same brush - I have dealt with a few of them and to be honest for every bad one there is a down to earth one that you can get on and work with.

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    its a b***** minefield if you are willing to do it let the police invite you to help.been doing it for years but some forces like to use there own people even if they are not trained properly most police I find are not trained in anatomy of the animals.stalkers with experiance are much better but ensure you have insurance and explain to any attending officers what you need from them try to get jo public out of the way !

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