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    Poaching

    Can someone give a reasonable time line for decomposing internal organs left in the elements.

    I was out on my permission yesterday and shot a nice Doe, not 10 feet from where I shot her was what appeared to be a gralloch, once I cleaned out my Doe, I had a quick look about and forund 2 rear legs, cleanly broken.

    As there has been knowone on there shooting "With in the law", for over a year, I was just wanting some sort of indication to time scales.

    The rear legs still had fur/skin on them but I know that praying animals will leave these anyway,but the gralloch.........

    Cheers

    TJ

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    TJ,
    you haven't stated the state of composition. Was the liver etc with the gralloch, was there grass or vegetation in the gralloch, did the legs have complete fur covering, or partial.

    At this time of year decomposition is going to be slower than in the summer.

    I would suggest it has been recent if there is a gralloch present!

    J

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    The Roe Gralloch that I have left in the grass has disappeared inside two days from February onwards. Stomach and intestines.
    Fallow took longer, Magpies were still pecking the fat off the stomach after a couple of days, but everything (intestines) else was gone.
    There are a lot of hungry predators this time of year, Charlie and Raptors.

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    TJ it looks like you were not long behind him i have seen
    grallochs gone the same night and even in an area were predators are kept well down the gralloch has gone in a few days.

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    It was the green gralloch that was left, well the stomach to be precise, it was not that fresh, I recon I could have split the lining had I just poked my finger into it, not that I wanted to to be honest. Cannie set of Bal*s to do the gralloch and remove the legs, there was nothing else, the legs had near full coverage apart from where something had tried to get under the skin to get to the meat......

    Gutted to be honest, but I suppose it goes on everywhere, I will look into getting one of those camera things that work in the night and are movement activated, there are 2 access points for vehicles to get in and they both cross at the same point so an ambush I think might be in order. Although I have not seen any sign of vehicles accept mine, unless they are running the same tyres.

    It was a Roe, hopefully a Doe, there are not to many Bucks on the ground that I have seen, I have spotted 13 Lovely Sika Stags on the ground and 2 pricketts, I really don't want any of these to be taken. Don't want anything to be taken to be honest.


    Cheers

    TJ

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    Hi tartinjock The rumen contents are very acid so the lining and muscle would deteriorate quickly. I with jingzy on this you have a visitor all be it an unwelcome one. Go carefully as a professional stalker friend of mine was slashed by poacher and he is a very big boy.

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    TJ,

    did you find the gralloch near a road access, if so it could be lamping, if not, then discard that and try to be about at opportune times, morning and evening. Also, I know you have just picked this bit of ground up, so has the previous stalker been told that he is not welcome any more? Is there any history of poaching on that bit of land? You can be sure that they will take anything that moves. It is possible that it is a neighbour if it is on the edge of a march.

    Always have a camera in your pocket and only take photos if you catch them, then ask them politely to leave after phoning the police.

    Ask local keepers who to possibly look out for, they will also want to know if there is poaching going on near their estates.

    Hope this helps

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    care

    I second morena. By all means gather some info but dont get involved in any ambushing. Even if you dont get hurt I suspect your local chief constable already thinks the culprits arent suitable for firearms ownership but you must be ok so far. You wont be if you get into a confrontation.

    Hopefully they will move off and leave you alone.

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    The place I found it was about 1/2 mile into the ground. and about 1/2 a mile from the boundry. The tennant next to me is by chance is a very high positioned Civil Servant. I will get someone I know well, who knows him well to ask.

    Cheers for the input.

    TJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by tartinjock
    The place I found it was about 1/2 mile into the ground. and about 1/2 a mile from the boundry. The tennant next to me is by chance is a very high positioned Civil Servant. I will get someone I know well, who knows him well to ask.

    Cheers for the input.

    TJ
    That`s a long way in to be opportunists. Could it be someone who still thinks they have permission there?
    basil.

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