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    Lost a Hind today

    Hello Everyone.

    I was out today, nice and early, within 5 mins I was onto a Red Hind, no calf to be seen. She was only 70m ish away so I lined up and took a neck shot, she dropped on the spot . Happy as Larry .........

    When I went up to her, she was still kicking a little, her neck was under her body and she was on her back in a rut, as this was unsuitable for a second shot, I placed my rifle down, got my knife out to dispatch her by severing the arteries at the base of the neck. Just as I got the knife out, she kicked hard and got on her feet and ran, I had no time to get a "Stop" shot off.....



    I am absolutley devistated by this, I know that there is a Hind out there, hopefully dead now, but if not, seriously wounded. She has been shot and died for no reason now. This has been playing on me all day now, I am really down knowing this. I do hope it was an adrenalin run that got her up, and she went down soon after.

    I have in the past paralised deer with a neck shot and had to dispatch with a knife or second shot, I thought that this was the same, due to the position of her neck under her.

    I do not want critasisim on neck shots or the ethics behind it, I do not have to take neck shots to reduce meat damage for the dealer, I just thought that I would share my feelings about this, I have not had a runner before that did not go down within 10m and was not found.

    A Gutted TJ.

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    Well TJ dispite what some folk put on this site if you have done enough of it eventually you will get a day like you have had, although its not nice.

    Trouble with neck shots especially on a Red is that if you do not hit the spine, you will sometimes temporarily paralise the animal, which will eventually get up and run off, and unless you have just skimmed the top of the neck, it will go down somwhere eventually and die.

    I know this is not what you want to hear, and for those that say it has never ever happened to me. Well get out there and stalk enough and it will happen one day.

    This is where a good dog and or handgun comes in handy. And I know many on here will say why take a handgun. Well now you know why, especially if you are with clients on Sika stags, because these deer carry a shot more than any other deer.

    TJ where did it run to after it got up, knowing your ground well also helps.

    Fair play to you for putting it on the site, brave man, many on here would not for fear of the unwelcome and unconstructive responses we get from time to time. If it was yesterday, see if you can source someone local with a good hound to trail it tomorrow.

    If I lived near to you I would come up with the dog and help you, but its a bit of a jaunt from here. Pm me if you need any more help.

    All the best mate.

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    The Hind ran into a wood, well, when I say wood, to look at it, it is inpenatrable...unless you get down on your hands and knees, it amazes me than any animal as large as a Hind could get through it with relative ease. I tried as best as I could to follow, but I could have been with in 2m of it laying there and not seen it.

    Hindsight is always a good thing, I have gone over it 1000 times in my head what I should have done different.

    Cheers for a genuine reply, as I said I don't want an ethics slagging.

    TJ

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    I have serious mixed feelings about your post TJ. One of my main objectives in stalking deer is the quick and humane dispatch of the quarry.
    Sorry mate but your suffering and that deer is suffering through your choice of shot.

    Having said that, despite your best efforts everybody can end up loosing a wounded beast. I have been there and it is not nice. I have spent hours trailing small spots of blood but all well spent if I can locate the beast.

    Was there a blood trail to follow?

    I agree with Sikamalc find somebody with a good hound.

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    dont beat yourself up too much, yes its bad, yes you wish you had done things differently but by feeling this way you are showing you have respect for the beast. Some may not be too bothered about wounding an animal.

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    TJ
    this happens to the best and the worst of us
    today you learn't a valuable lesson
    as she was on her back and thrashing about , a shot through the ribs would of secured her , but next time , before thinking about the knife if they are moving about a bit, as a finish with a knife could be a dangerous position to put yourself in, wait a little next time just to see what goes on
    sounds like you clipped her along the top of the neck
    might even survive
    but keep hold of your rifle and be prepared to take a texas heart shot type follow up shot
    that feeling of loosing one ain't good is it, plenty others reading this are going through or hav been in the same boat, that i can promise you
    been through it myself
    that's why i now hav a dog for deer and doing the dog days ,
    take care
    stone

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    "I do not want critasisim on neck shots or the ethics behind it, I do not have to take neck shots to reduce meat damage for the dealer, I just thought that I would share my feelings about this, I have not had a runner before that did not go down within 10m and was not found. "

    TJ

    Having found out for yourself that the neck shot is NOT a perfect solution - has it altered your viewpoint at all?

    Do you think you will use it more or less often in future?

    Rgds Ian

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    TJ had you had a handgun do you think you would have used it, rather than the knife.


    Howa

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    Been there TJ - in my case a small roe buck which leapt to its feet after collapsing and lying still for about 5 minutes while I watched it from a high seat convinced it was dead. Then it simply bounded up and ran - no chance to get a second shot away. We searched the ground with 2 good dogs that night and again the next morning - minimal blood, no bone fragments, no trace of the animal.

    Like you, I was absolutely gutted but learned from the experience and am very wary of neck shot animals which collapse to the shot - but I'll still do it if the occasion demands. On the positive side, if you've creased the neck but caused no real bone damage it will probably recover. Serous damage to the vertebrae is more likely to be more permanently disabling.

    Respect for an honest post and clear respect for your quarry. As Sikamalc says, it happens, so don't let it get to you.

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    TJ

    I am sorry to say that I have seen this happen more than once before with neck shots, even with a dog by my side I always try for a heart/lung shot.

    Don't beat yourself up about it, but live and learn.

    Sorry that you have had to go though this.

    Best rgds

    Tahr

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