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    Whose the fool really

    Hi,

    following of from the recession thread and as a rants a rant this is mine.

    26,000 to sit at home and not work but beatch about not getting more as they live in an expensive part of town and has five kids with no dad on the scene...

    Come on wheres the Csa now chasing the Dad/s for monies....

    I work my sweaty little socks of and can only afford three kids, trust me if i could afford more I would its our right....

    If they need to move them then move to a cheaper location and sell the house which no doubt i am paying for anyways.....

    Whats going wrong i pay more taxes and they earn more than me ..


    Yes i am the fool for working... well i feel like one

    f,

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    Well said if you dont work dont have kids or the state should only help with one child !

    I,m sick of young lasses who have never worked having kids getting a new braodacres house fully kitted out washing machine dryer tv the lot all paid for by us fools in taxes !!

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    there was one the other day she has 10 kids with another on the way,but she carnt cope with kids so her mother who lives next door(council housing) fosters them for her at a cost of 700 per child per month, plus all housing benifitts it came to 120k a year. i feel mugged off arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh stav
    if your going too be dumb you have too be tough

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    centralbeltstalker wrote 'I work my sweaty little socks of and can only afford three kids, trust me if i could afford more I would its our right....'

    Am I getting dragged into an argument here? Anyhow, whilst it might be our right it doesn't make it right or responsible to have more than two kids regardless of who has the ability to pay for them! This world is way over populated already without adding to the problem! We control deer to prevent over population so why should humans not abide by the same principles themselves. Sorry but that's my opinion.
    Last edited by baguio; 25-01-2012 at 18:22.

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    I've been saying to people over the last 10 years or so (but in reality it's probably been going on much longer) but if I leave work mid morning to grab something from the shops or get home early it seems like more and more the shopping centres are rammed with people, and at 1500 people are out jogging and doing things which aren't work basically and I've had this creeping feeling that "am I the only one who actually has to earn a living round here? "... I strongly suspect that fudged unemployment statistics are hiding a growing problem that the rest of us haven't seen because, well, we've been too busy working!

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    This is going to be a difficult and painful transition for many families.They're not all workshy scroungers as the media would have us believe.

    The Welfare Reform Bill debate ... day 5 ... on the 26K limit in the H. of Lords is at.....

    http://www.publications.parliament.u...12012312000899

    The DWP estimate that 67K families will be hit by the cap. 54% live in London, and 9% in the South East ... and most of the problem for that 2/3rds is down to the extortionate rents in the private sector. For instance there won't be much change out of the max. 500 pw if you have to rent a 4-bed in Hammersmith for 400 a week. Getting Family Allowance at 13 a head would help for a temporary period.

    I don't know what the answer to this is, but have to agree with boy George that this situation can't go on any longer. The landlords will just have to find other tenants to fleece rather than Housing Benefit cases, or drop their rents if they want to take these families.
    Last edited by Sinistral; 25-01-2012 at 18:43.
    If I'm going to be accused of it then it's just as well I did it.

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    Stop closing the old army barracks down open up a new system were all single mums share a dormatry full of bunk beds with washing facillities at one end and a kitchen at the other and fill it full with the wasters they'll soon find a job to improve their standard of living and it will put others off having kids to get a house why should broadacres housing association be supplying NEW 3 bed houses to 16 - 17 year olds with one child !!!!!!! mad

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    Quote Originally Posted by baguio View Post
    centralbeltstalker wrote 'I work my sweaty little socks of and can only afford three kids, trust me if i could afford more I would its our right....'

    Am I getting dragged into an argument here? Anyhow, whilst it might be our right it doesn't make it right or responsible to have more than two kids regardless of who has the ability to pay for them! This world is way over populated already without adding to the problem! We control deer to prevent over population so why should humans not abide by the same principles themselves. Sorry but that's my opinion.
    Agreed, we manage populations (Wildlife) due to over population and welfare issues.

    Your argument would then be why don't we have a minimum standard for having umpteen kids. I still stand by the fact that if you work and contribute you can have a family large or small.

    1, you pay for them yourself
    2, you own a house
    3, your in a stable committed relationship

    Why should we all pay for someone to stay at home when there are plenty of jobs out there.

    Ideal uses for benefit claimants, council employment

    road sweepers
    litter pickers
    pot hole fillers
    shopping trolley collectors
    grass cutters
    dog wardens
    etc etc etc as the man would say.

    ps i was called a communist last year by a client but he was a staunch member of Mr Salmonds Brigade

    sorry still ranting ,,,,,,,,

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    if you want to rant why not have a go at an honest man making a living selling shooting....
    everything from deer to squirrels.
    he makes a profit from time to time
    he does 18 hour days pays his tax bill and pays to advertise.
    he works un socialable hours and not around much to see his wife and kids.
    out in all weathers and never lets a client down, he also thinks he does his bit for charity.
    but theres loads out there will moan about him making honest hard earned money.
    stop bitching and get on with your own life all this moaning changes nowt, scroungers will always be scroungers.

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    A sobering thought for the day and an indication of how times have changed!

    The oldies on here will remember that 40 years ago if you didn't work people would view you with suspicion, now in some instances, people who work are the ones viewed with suspicion and thought stupid.

    What's it all about? ? ?

    How in the name of **d can people earning so much money qualify for any benefits at all, just unsustainable insanity created by a never ending stream of dandelion licking Politicos!

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