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Thread: Woodland Red Deer VS Hill Deer

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    Woodland Red Deer VS Hill Deer

    Thought I would ask people for their opinion on which is harder to stalk - A wary old Woodland stag or a stag on the Open hill?

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    Ooh a hornets nest being disturbed here me thinks.....
    One way of looking at it might be how high are the hills or how steep are they as that makes a big difference, especially if your carry a bit too much around the waist like I do!
    Both are enjoyable and have there own quirks.
    I prefer the open hill if as much for the views as anything. If you have a blank on the hill, the day is not completely wasted where as in a forrestry plantation perhaps not quite as thrilling if you blank.

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    Yes a hard one to go for this. I have stalked many on the open hill over the years, and a fair number in woodland.

    Red Stags in old open forest are a real challenge. Woodland stalking is problamatic in that the wind eddies all the time and is often against you. If the rut is on you can sometimes mark a stag down by his roaring, but then the hinds are often the problem.

    Open hill is more demanding physically, where as woodland can be mentally challenging. And if you know your ground well hill stalking can be easier (sometimes). Again wind can play up or another beast in the way you had not spotted can ruin the whole stalk. No two stalks are hardly ever the same.

    Both are a marvel and a joy to undertake and I have been very very lucky to enjoy both over many years with or without clients. But if I had to choose I would say stalking stags in a forest environment was harder, and in someways more demanding.

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    It makes the hill boys jump and shout a bit , but after doing as much in woodland as on the hill I would say definatly commercial forestry sika and red is the hardest .
    Calling Red and Sika in woodland during the rut- most exciting.
    The scenery on the hill - outstanding.

    It's pretty academic as it's all ******* brilliant.

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    I would have to say Red on the hill are a bit easier forthe simple reason in most woodland situations your working "blind" untill very close to the beast. Also on the open hill, you can often spy a number of beasts and have alternatives ect while in the woods, especially sitka spruce you're often simply not aware of anything not on a ride or in a clearing...

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    this time of the year you will work for your deer in commercial forestry very nocturnal ,much easier on the hill but harder work ,does that make sense .also on the hill more chance s of multiple kills, more dragging .

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    Interesting to see the views, the reason I ask is that I was Pheasant Shooting last week and a very large red Stag was flushed out of one of the woods, This was in an area where there are not supposed to be any deer!! the keeper said that there are a few starting to creep in from neighbouring counties and that they are very very shy and have only been spotted once or twice over the last few years when out lamping foxes. It was a real treat to see and hope a few ladies move in to keep him company so we can get a resident population.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matty
    Interesting to see the views, the reason I ask is that I was Pheasant Shooting last week and a very large red Stag was flushed out of one of the woods, This was in an area where there are not supposed to be any deer!! the keeper said that there are a few starting to creep in from neighbouring counties and that they are very very shy and have only been spotted once or twice over the last few years when out lamping foxes. It was a real treat to see and hope a few ladies move in to keep him company so we can get a resident population.
    A similar thing happend to me the other week in Cumbria. I wasn't expecting such a big red stag to run between me and another beater!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by matty View Post
    Interesting to see the views, the reason I ask is that I was Pheasant Shooting last week and a very large red Stag was flushed out of one of the woods, This was in an area where there are not supposed to be any deer!! the keeper said that there are a few starting to creep in from neighbouring counties and that they are very very shy and have only been spotted once or twice over the last few years when out lamping foxes. It was a real treat to see and hope a few ladies move in to keep him company so we can get a resident population.

    It never ceases to amaze me that a large animals such as red deer can live in woodland and surrounding arable land and very few if any people know that they are there at all!!magic

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    I was out this eveing looing for end of season hinds.

    Spent a good hour watching some real big lads (est 18 stone+) feeding just 80 mtrs from me, mesmerising, shame I didnt have the camera with me.....

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