high seat safety certificate

barry thom

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Hi Guys A friend has just been told he must supply a safety certificate for his high seats, where and how do we get a safety certificates?.:-|

Answers on a postcard Please!.


ATB Barry
 
hi barry doesnt he just have a record book with weekly/monthly safety checks to say his seats are safe like a scafftag
atb tom
 
Thay have aksed for an anual safety certificate, not just a record of weekly safety checks.
How or where do we get one, who will do this?

ATB Barry
 
the estate i stalk has 120 seats all numbered and inspected by a safety firm who charge a small fortune ,they are all marked on a map too ! the estate do have paying clients .
 
All he has to do is issue one himself so somebody can have a bit of paper to say the buck stops with him. He should also keep a notebook and record all inspections, eg if he uses the seat as he would have to inspect it before he climbes :rolleyes:
 
Barry no he doesn't, if you go down that route he will have to issue risk assessments every time he uses the high seat, high seats come under (so they say) ladders and scaffolding where you would require a inspector qualified inspector to come with you inspect the high seat before you could use it, he would issue a scaf tag which date his inspection it can only be used that day etc

It all comes down to being too politically correct the only way around it is he uses his own portable high seat brings it in and removes it when finished.
 
WS That is the way we were thinking of going, taking a portable, the forrest manager is just covering his rear end!, unfortunatly that is the way we all seem to be heading, a blame culture!.
Its not my fault, joe blogs should have told me i could get hurt if i drew that sharp knife across my arm!


Thanks for the input Guys!

ATB Barry
 
It is because of the working at height regs and the requirements for a register of ladders.

Get one of these http://www.scafftag.co.uk/laddertagr-eith-l12.html and keep a folder somewhere with an inspection record / defect log and you are sorted :thumb:

[h=1]The law[/h][h=2]Work at Height Regulations 2005[/h]The Work at Height Regulations 2005 came into force on 6 April 2005. The Regulations apply to all work at height where there is a risk of a fall liable to cause personal injury.
They place duties on employers, the self-employed, and any person that controls the work of others (for example facilities managers or building owners who may contract others to work at height).
The Work at Height (Amendment) Regulations 2007 which came into force on 6 April 2007 apply to those who work at height providing instruction or leadership to one or more people engaged in caving or climbing by way of sport, recreation, team building or similar activities in Great Britain.
As part of the Regulations, duty holders must ensure:
  • all work at height is properly planned and organised;
  • those involved in work at height are competent;
  • the risks from work at height are assessed and appropriate work equipment is selected and used;
  • the risks from fragile surfaces are properly controlled; and
  • equipment for work at height is properly inspected and maintained.
 
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Barry no he doesn't, if you go down that route he will have to issue risk assessments every time he uses the high seat, high seats come under (so they say) ladders and scaffolding where you would require a inspector qualified inspector to come with you inspect the high seat before you could use it, he would issue a scaf tag which date his inspection it can only be used that day etc

It all comes down to being too politically correct the only way around it is he uses his own portable high seat brings it in and removes it when finished.

Bob/Barry- Unless the stalker owns the ground that he shoots on yes he does have to carry out an inspection of any fixed or portable high seat, as he is on a third parties property and classed as being 'an undertaker' of services which falls under the auspices of the HASWA 74. The procedure is so basic and no-one needs to be confused or scared. It is about a competent (NOT qualified) person inspecting the high seat before use and recording the inspection where requested to do so by the owner of the ground. Where less than 5 people are in the Syndicate or lease and the owner does not require it, the record does not need to be formally recorded. It is also a requirement to fix a sign on a fixed high seat to state that it has been inspected and that the seat should not be climbed or used by unauthorised persons. But in reality this is difficult to prevent unless you have a board secured over the ladder access.

I have knocked together a basic inspection sheet that you could use, but do not have a copy of the sign we use, which I will try and get a copy of for posting. If anyone wants a word copy for use/editing in case I have missed anything off then PM your e-mail and I will forward.


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ATB

Andy
 
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Easy, with a thread like this you might just provoke somebody into offering a course on how to climb a high seat..
I think you are takin the pi55 now mate!
It would have to be a 2 day course at least, or how would they know how to get down again? Accommodation would therefore be required and food. Specialist climbing gear would be provided at cost and possibly oxygen for working at altitude. Then there's the exam and certification fees to consider. I reckon It should be achievable for about £750?
MS:rolleyes:
 
I think you are takin the pi55 now mate!
It would have to be a 2 day course at least, or how would they know how to get down again? Accommodation would therefore be required and food. Specialist climbing gear would be provided at cost and possibly oxygen for working at altitude. Then there's the exam and certification fees to consider. I reckon It should be achievable for about £750?
MS:rolleyes:

:rofl:
 
I think you are takin the pi55 now mate!
It would have to be a 2 day course at least, or how would they know how to get down again? Accommodation would therefore be required and food. Specialist climbing gear would be provided at cost and possibly oxygen for working at altitude. Then there's the exam and certification fees to consider. I reckon It should be achievable for about £750?
MS:rolleyes:

Can we do a level 2 course, to certify people on getting back down the ladder? You'll have to build up a portfolio and get someone to supervise you on at least one occasion... :coat:
 
Thanks firsttimer, MY mates an engineer and has been shoooting all his life and he is what i would call a competant person , so we will draw up an inspection list/ record sheet along the lines of yous recomendations, and see if owners will accept!.

The course might have to have first aid certificate, as you could get altitude sickness, and knowing what to do could be a good £100 certificate!.:banned:


ATB Barry
 
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