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Thread: FAC Variation for 6.5 calibre question - what do I request?

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    FAC Variation for 6.5 calibre question - what do I request?

    I am taking my DSC1 in April and looking at specific calibres for a deer rifle.

    Am pretty much decided on 6.5x55 but on further looking research realised that there are other 6.5 calibres.

    My question is that when i put in for my variation can I just ask for 6.5 mm or do I have to say 6.5 x 55?

    Cheers


    Andy

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    Put in for 6.5. If there is a problem your FLO will correct it when he calls.
    I put .17 CF on a renewal and Derbyshire OK'd it.

    GL

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    You will need to be specific with the calibre you apply for. I used the superb 6.5x55 for a number of years and the rifle I purchased was a Tikka T3, great rifle great cartridge. Then I saw a superb Heym 6.5x57 SR21 at Reeves and very reluctantly px'd my Tikka. My variation was specific at 6.5x57 because I need to list this to not only buy the new rifle but also you will see the other authority (not including Deer or Vermin control) is to aquire a (maximum) specific number of rounds to suite your rifle.
    You are correct in so far as there are a number of 6.5 variations for example 6.5x55, 6.5x57, 6.5x54, 6.5x68 etc dont forget some are rimmed and some rimless i.e the 6.5x57R

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    Form 101 says 'calibre' but in practice it's 'cartridge'.

    Your FLD will have to clarify exactly what you want. It'll save them time, and possible irritation if you have your mind made up before you make the entry.

    You already know what the alternative calibres are, so if you're thinking .260 rather than the more common 6.5x55 IMO it's best to get your thoughts together first.

    Others will give different advice, but they're not the person waiting cap-in-hand. You are.
    If I'm going to be accused of it then it's just as well I did it.

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    Either put 6.5, or .260, or even 6.5/.260 - check what will be the path of least resistance with the FEO

    The LAW does just stipulate Caliber, not chambering: stick with the letter of the law....it's the law!!

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    Depends how quickly you want the variation!

    Quote Originally Posted by saddler View Post
    Either put 6.5, or .260, or even 6.5/.260 - check what will be the path of least resistance with the FEO

    The LAW does just stipulate Caliber, not chambering: stick with the letter of the law....it's the law!!

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    Thanks.

    I'll have a chat with my FEO and see what he says. My firearms authority is Surrey and they are pretty quick.

    Andy

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    I tried 6.5/.260 with good old Lancs, they wouldn't have it. Ended up going for a 6.5x55 in the end, having had to specify a 'cartridge'.

    hh

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    Quote Originally Posted by force64 View Post
    Thanks.

    I'll have a chat with my FEO and see what he says. My firearms authority is Surrey and they are pretty quick.

    Andy
    My Surrey FAC just had 6.5mm on the ammunition as I had at the time FOUR 6.5mm rifles chambered for three different cartridges. Don't know how they are now as it's been nearly 8 years since I left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saddler View Post
    Either put 6.5, or .260, or even 6.5/.260 - check what will be the path of least resistance with the FEO

    The LAW does just stipulate Caliber, not chambering: stick with the letter of the law....it's the law!!
    Indeed you're right, but now there's a nasty computer system called FLMS now, and years of entrenched practice within FLD's. A lot of FEO's 'don't do detail' but they soon learn the ropes from the admin. staff who do.

    To print the +1 version of your FAC they need to enter a 'cartridge' in the Part I and II - Authority to Acquire. The descriptor for this comes from a standard lookup table built from the Cartridges on Page 77 - Good Reason of the Home Office Guidance. They select the right one (most of the entries are below) from a drop down menu. Anything 'non-standard' such as a wildcat won't be on the menu. It then has to be input manually. So instantly there's a problem. Questions have to be asked and guidance sought. It becomes a task beyond the wits of the average chimpanzee. I'm not referring to the FLD staff here, but the absolute standardisation and rigour which is enforced on 43 FLD's by a computer system designed for common use. Getting round the rules needs somebody in admin with the know-how, and the inclination...... now why should they for a start?

    You can stand on your high horse. You can insist on your right in law to choose any cartridge of 6.5mm calibre, but in the end what you get is the cartridge selected for printing on your FAC. Also, RFD's now are so used to seeing a specific entry like '7.62 x 51/.308 ' that if something like '.30' appears the first thing they'll do is to contact Firearms Licensing to find out what to do. If that occurs at a weekend then you're stuffed.

    .22 RF
    .17 Remington
    .218 Bee
    .22 Hornet2
    .22-.250
    .220 Swift
    .222 Remington
    5.56mm/.223
    .243
    6mm PPC
    6mm/.244
    .25-06
    6.5mm x 55/.256
    .257 Weatherby
    .264
    .270
    7mm/.275
    .284
    .30-06
    .303
    7.62mm x 51/.308
    .338
    .375
    9.3mm Mauser
    .416
    .444 Marlin
    If I'm going to be accused of it then it's just as well I did it.

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