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    Dedicated deer dogs

    This has probably been done before, but after a discussion with a couple of fellow stalkers yesterday on the merits of a deer dog, as we all know there are more and more specialist hounds coming into the country(bavaians hanovarions etc) so much so that we are even seeing cross breeds...
    How many deer do we need to shoot in a year to justify owning a dedicated deer dog...... myself and most of my stalking friends use labs and Hprs as multipurpose dogs, personaly my dogs are never left in the kennel if im out with a gun regardless of what im hunting, and make a very good account of themselves....
    I know these hounds are top of the shop when it comes to tracking, but how often is this skill needed to be put into practice on a percentage basis....
    Personaly i will be out stalking at least twice a week and account for a good number of deer in a year mainly roe and sika,although my dogs are always with me they are VERY rarely needed to recover a lost deer,without doubt thier greatest asset is indicating unseen deer....
    This is a bit of a rant ,but what im trying ask is what if any are the benefits of owning a dog that may spend most of its life waiting for somthing to go wrong...
    sorry if this upsets anybody, but would like to hear the views of others...

    TAM

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    Here was me thinking you were a little girl of 16 but hey not so. Dedicated deer dogs in my opinion only needs to find one deer a year that might have suffer had it not been found.

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    Todd is always with me. Taking clients out without a good dog is risking loosing valuable deer. Also he is good company and I enjoy nothing more than being out with him stalking together.

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    What makes you think that a dedicated deer dog needs to be left in a kennel until its needed?
    Any breed of dog can be a deer dog(just worked to deer)
    I understand you're on about BMH/HS,they are quite apt at walking at heel no problems,some won't indicate others will,on the continent these dogs are used by the pro trackers because they get called in after a driven day or a dog has already failed to find
    If your happy with labs/hprs continue with them,a BMH/HS needs older tracks to keep them on their toes(24hrs+),especially if you're not shooting a lot of deer,hot tracks from freshly shot deer they manage with their eyes closed,still give them older tracks now and again
    My labs I work like this and they are just worked to deer,one trick ponies because I like dogs to master one job,they all happily retrieve too,continental hounds won't always naturally retrieve
    Horses for courses

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6pointer View Post
    Here was me thinking you were a little girl of 16 but hey not so. Dedicated deer dogs in my opinion only needs to find one deer a year that might have suffer had it not been found.
    +1,BTW these 2 breeds of hounds should never be cross bred IMO
    Last edited by Wolverine; 19-02-2012 at 20:43.

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    I agree with you both, but what im trying to get at is why a specialist to find perhaps one deer a year when a well trained multi pupose breed would be perfectly adiquate,i cant help thinking(dare i say it) that many of these hounds are are often a must have item of the moment....


    Ps 6pointer im 6ft3 and a lot older..

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6pointer View Post
    Here was me thinking you were a little girl of 16 but hey not so. Dedicated deer dogs in my opinion only needs to find one deer a year that might have suffer had it not been found.
    Davie, he put that name up just to get loads of friend requests!

    He is taller than me and trains at the local boxing gym. Amanda does not really suit.

    Tam, I'll let you see mine when I get her. my reasons are kind of a mix of the above plus some of my own personal thoughts on it.

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    I've wondered about this myself. Any genuine tracks of wounded animals must be very few and far between, a dedicated pure deer dog must be bored silly most of the time with nowt to do. An allrounder, by its very title, can be worked to its full potential on other game on a much more regular basis.

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    The more people you know,the more your called out for wounded deer,RTA's
    These hounds are the elite for scenting deer,dead or wounded,if you're not shooting a lot you need to keep them amused with training tracks
    Not a problem for a lot of guys,ie shooting a lot of deer
    Last edited by Wolverine; 19-02-2012 at 20:57.

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    Breeze is a HPR but is never encouraged to point/work game, she is a dedicated deer dog not only pointing live deer but tracking shot ones to.
    she is at work twice a day every day(almost). Thats dedicated

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