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Thread: Which .22lr? Sako quad?

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    Which .22lr? Sako quad?

    Hi folks,

    I know this has been asked many times before but i think my question differs a little from those already asked.
    I need to carry out some pest control on an area of new planted broadleaf forest, but with only 12g and .243 i need a new rimfire.

    At present i have .22lr on my FAC and with the cheap, very available and subsonic ammo, reckon this is my best cal. But some of the damage to the trees is clearly hare not just rabbit so maybe i need a .17hmr (or mach2) as well.

    So here is the question, do you think i should buy a cheap (prob s/h) CZ 452 and in future if i need the longer range for the hares than buy a second rimfire in .17?

    Though i say a CZ .22lr, what are your thoughts on the Browning T-bolt? I have browning shotguns and A-bolt in .243 so quite like the Browning brand...

    Or buy the sako quad with a .22lr barrel and when i get .17hmr on FAC just get the second barrel? Does the sako really give you a decent multi-purpose rifle or is it like the multi-tool that gives a crap knife, crap pliers, crap screwdriver etc etc....

    Cheers for any comments
    Mike

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    I have the Quad.

    my .22 groups are single hole at 50yds with WinSubs.
    Only catch is they apparently cut the rifling very close to the chamber so occasionally you get live rounds that dont eject first time. this is easily solved and only happens if you use really waxy rounds or dont clean the chamber now and then.

    the biggest issue with multi barrel rifle is the scope and zero maintenance.
    I solved this with post style Leupold QR mounts and a scope per barrel (I have all four calibres)

    I use the .22lr and .17M2 calibres more than anything else. (I find the HMR is noisy, expensive and overkill for my purposes)
    ammo for these two are effectively the same price.
    The M2 is a necked down .22 LR and flat out to 100 1ith 4" drop between 100-150 and 12" at 200.

    You can swap a barrel and scope in less than a minute. My set up holds its zero so well I rarely check it between changes other than shooting a dandelion head or similar in the field.

    I went the whole hog and got the walnut hunter, I changed some of the fittings to blacked CNC Aluminium items (bolt/Trigger guard) and fitted a PES moderator. In this format it is a quite heavy but I like that.

    cant comment on the CZ options but it depends on how many rifles you want. I quite often take a spare barrel and scope with me just in case.

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    I've had a 16" barrelled cz for about 6 years, put thousands of bullets through it, high velocity, subs & super subs & its never let me down, never bullet fussy, still single holes at 50 yards. I've shot most 22 lr's and would put it up against most of them and it was half the price!! The new thumbhole version looks a cracker.

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    Stevie - what barrel do you have on your CZ? I'm thinking about getting one for sheer value for money and want it to be as accurate as possible so I was thinking going for the Varmint barrel..

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    Just out of interest, what would two CZs with scopes cost vs. a quad with two barrels and scopes? This doesn't take into account that two complete rifles are likely to get you out od trouble if one goes wrong, unlike a single action.

    David.

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    From Northern Optics two CZs in different calibres come in at around 200 cheaper than the Quad with another barrel, all excluding optics..
    http://www.northern-optics.co.uk/CZ_RIMFIRE.html
    http://www.northern-optics.co.uk/SAKO_RIMFIRE.html

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    I'd just get a cheap secondhand little 22lr or 17machII. If you have them available there, the little Zastavas are also a great little 22. I wouldn't worry about a switch barrel to give the option of the magnum rimfires - as i think they are about to be rendered obsolete.

    Instead, i'd be planning on getting the new little 17 hornet down the track. Hornady has just standardised the 17 ackley hornet, and ruger and savage are starting to chamber them. They are claiming 3600fps. With the option of reloading and the potential to download to 17HMR specs, i think it will make the 22WMR and 17HMR obsolete. I am just hoping we see some better rifles introduced for the cartridge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brenneke View Post
    Hornady has just standardised the 17 ackley hornet, and ruger and savage are starting to chamber them. They are claiming 3600fps. With the option of reloading and the potential to download to 17HMR specs, i think it will make the 22WMR and 17HMR obsolete. I am just hoping we see some better rifles introduced for the cartridge.
    you have as much chance of the .22lr becoming obsolete.
    the WMR sells by the hundreds of millions for the very reason that you dont have to think about brass and reloading

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    Mines the varmint barrel mate, you'd be makin the right chioce if thats what your after. To be honest the old style factory triggers were a little hard & sticky so i fitted a kit from South Yorkshire Shooting Supplies for about a tenner & thats been no trouble, i think cz now do a factory single set so the after market job may be a thing of the past.

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    Thanks for your thoughts guys, i like the point about the price differences between say 2 x cz 452 and the quad with second barrel with the Sako still being dearer. Also good point that a malfunction in the action would render essentially 2 rifles out of action.

    Think i'll go for a new CZ 452 Silhouette in .22lr and buy another secondhand rifle if needed. Got the .22lr slot and not the 17 on the FAC anyhows...

    How is the 22lr going to get on with Hares? with them often being at greater distances than the bunnies? Guess head shots fine at 50yrds but how about 70-80yrds - still going to get good hits?

    Cheers, Mike
    Last edited by MrMickeyD; 08-03-2012 at 15:25.

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