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    Question Expanding ammo

    I have an open ticket for 22lr and then at the bottom it says i can get expanding. However it doesnt state what cal!! I only ask as i hope to do some stalking soon and would like to load up some 30-06 with the requiered projectile. Would I be able to get the bullets needed for the job?? or would my ticket need to go off for amendment?? (thats going to take another 2 months with norfolk)
    The Empire was built on cups of tea.

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    Do you have a 30-06 on ticket at the moment ? If so then no, you can't aquire expanding ammo or bullets and you'll need to send your ticket in for the change. Also check the conditions imposed on your use of the rifle don't preclude you shooting deer !

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    As baconbuttie says if your certificate is already conditioned so that you may use your .30-06 for deer stalking then you have the necessary authority to possess expanding bullets and ammunition in that calibre. It's normal for the specific calibre to be mentioned as regard to expanding missiles but this isn't always included as police forces "sometimes" tend to do things differently. If your certificate isn't conditioned for using the .30-06 for deer stalking I'm afraid that you will need to apply for a variation but the good thing is that such a variation should be free of charge.
    It's the calibre of the shooter that counts not the calibre of the rifle.

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    Time to call the FEO!!!
    The Empire was built on cups of tea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by norfolk shooter View Post
    Time to call the FEO!!!
    Hmmm!

    I going to stick my neck out here and offer a bit of advice (and say why)

    FEO's are in the business of gathering information and otherwise, through various means, "processing" applicants' applications to the purpose of issuing FACs. They are NOT service providers to said applicants and they only may, or indeed may not, have assisting the applicant as their objective. Many would appear to have an entirely different objective in mind.

    If you require information I advise you to seek it from organisations whose function IS to provide service to you.

    Once you have the right advice then submit your application correctly. (or in this case "variation")

    Any other course of action is an invitation to the risk of "tampering" and the exercise of whim and fancy, or blacker motive, on the part of an issuing authority.

    Why allow that situation to arise?

    I'm sure the vast majority of "problems", with Firearms Licensing Offices, reported on this site could easily be avoided by adhering to the above advice and opinion. For what it's worth.

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    Definately call your FEO. If it doesn't state it clearly you can't do it. I've seen plenty of tickets with a centre fire conditioned for deer but not allowed to purchase expanding, nearly always a mistake from the licensing authority so it will be put right. Call them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HME View Post
    Definately call your FEO. If it doesn't state it clearly you can't do it. I've seen plenty of tickets with a centre fire conditioned for deer but not allowed to purchase expanding, nearly always a mistake from the licensing authority so it will be put right. Call them.
    Call him?

    And what?

    Show that your reading and comprehension is that of an infant or imbecile?

    Have an unrecorded and entirely deniable "conversation" that will waste time and require to be repeated in writing anyway?

    If you want a "buddy" to bounce ideas off join a shooting organisation and get advice that's actually meant to serve you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tamus View Post
    Hmmm!

    I going to stick my neck out here and offer a bit of advice (and say why)

    FEO's are in the business of gathering information and otherwise, through various means, "processing" applicants' applications to the purpose of issuing FACs. They are NOT service providers to said applicants and they only may, or indeed may not, have assisting the applicant as their objective. Many would appear to have an entirely different objective in mind.

    If you require information I advise you to seek it from organisations whose function IS to provide service to you.

    Once you have the right advice then submit your application correctly. (or in this case "variation")

    Any other course of action is an invitation to the risk of "tampering" and the exercise of whim and fancy, or blacker motive, on the part of an issuing authority.

    Why allow that situation to arise?

    I'm sure the vast majority of "problems", with Firearms Licensing Offices, reported on this site could easily be avoided by adhering to the above advice and opinion. For what it's worth.
    Tamus,
    Superbly written my friend and i agree with you 100%, i have been saying this sort of thing for years and people still do not want take notice.
    I liken FEOs to doctors receptionists. if you know what i mean.

    Ian.

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    As the lawful shooting of deer requires that expanding ammunition is mandatory, then it should follow that if your rifle is conditioned for the shooting of deer, then you have the right to purchase this ammunition in the calibre suitable for the rifle on ticket.
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    Quote Originally Posted by finnbear270 View Post
    As the lawful shooting of deer requires that expanding ammunition is mandatory, then it should follow that if your rifle is conditioned for the shooting of deer, then you have the right to purchase this ammunition in the calibre suitable for the rifle on ticket.

    You go into a gunshop and try buy some expanding ammo with an FAC that doesn't specifically state expanding ammo. I bet you'd have a job on explaining that because you have 'deer' written in you can buy some?

    Tom
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