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    British DNA database to be given to the EU !

    Read it and weep. Be afraid, be very afraid . I know it's the Daily Mail and should be taken with a pinch of salt, but if they can mess the results up and innocents can be prosecuted, who knows who's going to be extradited and to god know where.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-DNA-bank.html

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    This is only a worry to the few people that think that the UK is an independant nation. We lost that many years ago.

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    OK, so for a start, the Daily Mail's a bad place to find unbiased news on the EU, but you're missing the key point here. Which is that the UK collects and holds more DNA profiles of its' own citizens than anywhere else on earth. What's more, the UK has been condemned by the European Court of Human Rights for retaining the DNA profiles or people who are found not guilty of crimes, or found to not even be associated with them. If the EU were gathering this data, it would affect the UK more than any other member state, because no other country systematically does this with so little legal oversight.

    It's similar to the fact that we have more CCTV cameras than anywhere else on earth, and that until the last election, the government was hell-bent on introducing ID cards backed by the National Identity Register, a database of a level of intrusiveness unparalleled anywhere else in the world. In the US, it would be unconstitutional to gather, keep and cross-reference that amount of personal data on citizens, and it's explicitely forbidden in France, Sweden and Germany, probably elsewhere too.

    They only stopped this stuff because it was too expensive, and because the Lib Dems, and some of the Tories, find this fundamentally abhorent.

    It has nothing much to do with the EU at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scrun63 View Post
    Read it and weep. Be afraid, be very afraid . I know it's the Daily Mail and should be taken with a pinch of salt, but if they can mess the results up and innocents can be prosecuted, who knows who's going to be extradited and to god know where.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-DNA-bank.html
    We have been allowing "innocent" (until proven guilty!) British Citizens to be extradited for years! mostly to out "friends" in the US.
    God knows how many were held in "GitMo" and then there are the Barclays bankers that were tried and jailed in the US for there part in the WorldCom scandals.

    dont think for a minute our government are on our side....

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    Again though, no-one told the UK to collect all this data in the first place. In fact the ECHR told the UK NOT to keep a sizeable chunk of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pine Marten View Post
    OK, so for a start, the Daily Mail's a bad place to find unbiased news on the EU, but you're missing the key point here. Which is that the UK collects and holds more DNA profiles of its' own citizens than anywhere else on earth. What's more, the UK has been condemned by the European Court of Human Rights for retaining the DNA profiles or people who are found not guilty of crimes, or found to not even be associated with them. If the EU were gathering this data, it would affect the UK more than any other member state, because no other country systematically does this with so little legal oversight.

    It's similar to the fact that we have more CCTV cameras than anywhere else on earth, and that until the last election, the government was hell-bent on introducing ID cards backed by the National Identity Register, a database of a level of intrusiveness unparalleled anywhere else in the world. In the US, it would be unconstitutional to gather, keep and cross-reference that amount of personal data on citizens, and it's explicitely forbidden in France, Sweden and Germany, probably elsewhere too.

    They only stopped this stuff because it was too expensive, and because the Lib Dems, and some of the Tories, find this fundamentally abhorent.

    It has nothing much to do with the EU at all.
    Didn't I say Daily Mail - take it with a pinch of salt ?

    I am acutely aware of the issues mate and i agree entirely with the points raised above. On one should go on any register before they are found guilty of an offence but that's not the story in the news at the moment is it ?

    Scrun

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