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Thread: Pre '64 Winchester short action stock needed - will the latest winchester ones fit ?

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    Pre '64 Winchester stock needed - will the latest winchester ones fit ?

    Pre '64 Winchester short action stock wanted - or will the latest winchester ones fit ?
    I have a mint condition 1938 winchester mod 70, but the woodwork on it, with its cross hatched steel buttplate, is in just too perfect condition to use for lamping, as even though I look after my guns very well, accidents do happen in the dark - plus I don't want to be agonising over my rifle all the time.
    I think Winchester have gone back to the pre 64' action now, so will these latest stocks fit ?
    Cheers
    Last edited by lincolnjefferies; 04-04-2012 at 13:23.

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    There is no such a thing as a "Short Action" Pre 64 Model 70. They are all the same with the magazine adjusted for different cartridge lengths. Can't tell you if the current (FN) model will work.~Muir

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    Thank you Muir for the correction ! I bet the info is out there in the states

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    Heres some pics - oh for the joys of snow and days off from working to idle away ! Its a .22 Hornet with an old Leupold variable scope.
    Last edited by lincolnjefferies; 04-04-2012 at 13:43.

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    There were THREE main action types/lengths - and EIGHT variations of magazine box length - and FIVE different lengths of follower

    I can scan the relevant pages (100-103) from "Rifleman's Rifle", by Roger Rule, if that will be of use?

    What caliber is your 1938 Mod. 70?
    Mine is "30-Gov't-06", Super Grade, with Lyman 48WJS rearsight. Mine is a 5 digit seral no. #19***, clip slotted, with just the front of the receiver drilled & tapped for a scope base. I got a special Stith base a while back but have not fitted it yet - that would allow fitting an old Lyman Alaskan without modifying the gun. Would love to get a pre-'64 Bull Gun in the same caliber as I have a Unertl scope sitting waiting.

    IF I was after a stock for my Mod 70 I would bite the bullet and get a new McMillan one. They make them for ANY action type -and have pre-64 & pre-war Mod. 70 options as standard.

    Hope this helps!!

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    Thank you Saddler, thats a fine rifle you have there, especially a Supergrade ! Mine is a .22 hornet from I think 1938, with a five digit no. #22***.
    Have wondered about obtaining the aperture sight that the action is drilled and tapped for. The Lyman Alaskan you mention for your 30-06 would be a very nice period outfit. Bet you had to look hard for an Unertl in the UK. I'm keen on vintage optics and mounts myself and have a Zeiss Zielklein with the rare duplex recticle - which would be interesting to try on the rifle, as these were popular hunting scopes in the 30's.
    A McMillian stock in a light sporter profile would be ideal, but to be honest it would be quite an outlay for the little hornet, so would be looking for a takeoff factory stock off someones custom rifle !
    Last edited by lincolnjefferies; 04-04-2012 at 14:47.

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    That's a lovely rifle you have there. The old Winchesters really were well built!

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    .22 Hornet

    12th in the rarity table, out of the 19 listed calibers.
    20,306 made in total, 3.49% of Mod 70 production. Made from 1937 to 1954.
    Model # with std sight, G7001C - with the Lyman 48WJS, G7011C

    Would be interested if you ever wanted to sell it - always wanted a .22 Hornet: so a pre-war Mod.70 would be my ideal find!!

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    Nice rifle! Made in the day when the action screws were still timed. Very nice rig...

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    That looks like a lovely old rifle in very good condition. I am guessing that it is worth a LOT more money in the States to a Model 70 collector than it is worth as a shooter here in the UK.

    I would be doubtful if I would risk that rifle out lamping....
    Brian.

    Just because you are paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claret_Dabbler View Post
    That looks like a lovely old rifle in very good condition. I am guessing that it is worth a LOT more money in the States to a Model 70 collector than it is worth as a shooter here in the UK.

    I would be doubtful if I would risk that rifle out lamping....
    Sort of - IF the rear of the receiver hadn't been drilled/tapped for the Lyman/Redfield scope base!! Ouch, poor gun...still, gotta be worth a few quid as a decent little woods rifle for fox, etc.

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