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Thread: Ballistic tips v's partition

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    Ballistic tips v's partition

    I've seen a couple of comments elsewhere on this forum about ballisitic tips.

    I've been using them for a couple of years and like other forum users - will never go back to anything else for the stalking I do which is predominantly fallow and roe.

    Last weekend as the light was fading fast, I followed a walking roe doe through the scope. It eventaully stopped and I took the shot. I'm ashamed to say that it was too far back and was really a gut shot. However she went straight over with the bullet tearing large holes in the liver.

    I'm convinced that I would have had a long night tracking a wounded deer if it weren't for the choice of bullet. I'm not saying that it's the choice of crap shots! I'm conservative with my choice of shots, so am usually able to acheive good shot placement. But the tips do provide that extra 'insurance' which we could all do with from time to time...

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    I'd be interested to hear other memebr of the forums opinions on ballistic tips.

    I'm very cautious about there use as I've a deer shot with them were the've been shot in the chest (classic heart shot) just behind the front leg and exited throught the gut after bouncing around in the chest cavity. Is this a one off?

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    In response to Jasons observations regarding the correct bullet placement but subsequent internal damage at locations to the rear of the diaphram. I too have witnessed this effect on a number of occasions with the ballistic tips or the ballistic silvertips in the winchester supreme range. Furthermore on a few of these occasions there has what appeared to be a very small additional exit wound at the correct location on the carcass and to date I have assumed that this has been caused by the Balistic tip itself continuing along the correct path whilst the the remainder and obviously bulk of the head has veered of path and caused the damage described. Dont know if these apparently observed terminal ballistics are even possible but I am certainly keeping an eye on all of my own results.

    Remmy7.

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    Hi Remmy interestingly the deer was shot with Whinchester Ballistic Silver Tips from Winchesters supreme range.

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    I have been using been using 90gr Nosler ballistic tips in my 243 for a while. I have found them really good, provided the shot is a disciplined one! There is a lot less room for error with them.

    I have only had one nasty with them and that was, as mentioned above, from an unpleasent deflection in the chest cavity.

    Very accurate though!

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    what about meat damage with ballistic tips?
    My choice is a good quality heavy expanding round.
    180 grn soft point in 30-06,I use it for everything and it works with minimal damage.
    I may be bit old fashioned but I prefer heavy lump of lead, not a whiz bang fast and furious round,except for my 22-250 in which I use 40 grn hollow points,but then again I not worried about meat damage in foxes

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    The only time I had an issue with meat damage was an indirect one... the bullet path distorted inside the chest cavity and ended up entering the stomach... I had to cut away a lot of the meat that was affected by the stomach contents.

    It has not put me off using ballistic tips, I just learnt to be more disciplined with my shots.

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    Ballistic tips every time for me (70 gr Noslers in my .243) , so much safer than a partition round only a tiny piece of jacket exits even a small roe, carcass damage ?, yes more than a soft nose, but to transfer the maximum amount of energy to the animal and therefore give the most humane kill the bulk of the round has to stay within the body of the target. I would rather have slightly more carcass damage but a cleaner kill.
    As for Remmys comments I have too seen that effect, the exit hole is caused by the base of the round which is just an empty copper shell having allready shed its contents throughout the chest cavity. These small fragments have a shotgun blast like affect over the heart and lungs and blood pressure loss is massive and immediate.
    We do a lot of downland stalking and longer distances are the norm, a lighter faster bullet gives a wide range with minimal adjustment needed from 50 to 250 yards.

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    BT

    Quote Originally Posted by Jason
    I'd be interested to hear other memebr of the forums opinions on ballistic tips.

    I'm very cautious about there use as I've a deer shot with them were the've been shot in the chest (classic heart shot) just behind the front leg and exited throught the gut after bouncing around in the chest cavity. Is this a one off?
    I had that hapen to a Muntjack hit squre on at 20m with a 95 grain Nosler. It droped on the spot. I guess it must have been defelcted by the ribs as it went in.

    Dave

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    Bambi Basher
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason
    I'd be interested to hear other memebr of the forums opinions on ballistic tips.

    I'm very cautious about there use as I've a deer shot with them were the've been shot in the chest (classic heart shot) just behind the front leg and exited throught the gut after bouncing around in the chest cavity. Is this a one off?
    Don't blame your ballistic tips I have known this happen with soft points also.

    The ballistic tip bullet is constructed the same as a soft point and then a plastic tip is bonded on top it is not that different from a soft point.

    They do give better accuracy and a better ballistic coficent than a hollow point or soft point.

    I use them and do rate them.

    B-B

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