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    New permission

    I recently obtained a new permission and sent a letter off to my licensing dept. to get the land cleared for 22 rimfire and 22 centrefire (hornet). They sent me a letter back saying the land is "suitable for all calibres up to and including .17hmr", with no mention of the 22rimmy or hornet. I was a little uneasy about this so gave them a call and the person answering the phone said he would check and if he DIDNT get back to me within the hour then i was ok to use both. I agreed and hung up. He never got back to me so i was quite pleased but, thinking about it now , still a little uneasy about not having it in writing. I DID take the persons name and time/date of call down. Do u think i should insist on getting it in writing or am i being a little cautious?

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    Bladesman as it stands the last letter the police have on file for the permission is one for 'up to .17HMR'. So not sure if this goes by caliber measured or caliber energy but i would think you need letter approving your calibers. If they want to make silly rules then they can provide the paper.

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    Sounds to me like they want to limit you to rimfires for the moment! Any info on land? Size, many roads, is it flat. Footpaths, houses? Maybe give it a few months till you have chucked some lead about with a Rimfire and then get a variation for the hornet!

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    You dont need anything in writing but you do need conformation on what "up to and including 17HMR" means.
    Many licensing offices rate cartridges in order of size not power and on that basis you would not be allowed to use any of your calibres.
    However if they have based it on power of the cartridge then you will be okay to use your .22LR but not the Hornet im afraid.

    Ian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bladesman View Post
    I recently obtained a new permission and sent a letter off to my licensing dept. to get the land cleared for 22 rimfire and 22 centrefire (hornet). They sent me a letter back saying the land is "suitable for all calibres up to and including .17hmr", with no mention of the 22rimmy or hornet. I was a little uneasy about this so gave them a call and the person answering the phone said he would check and if he DIDNT get back to me within the hour then i was ok to use both. I agreed and hung up. He never got back to me so i was quite pleased but, thinking about it now , still a little uneasy about not having it in writing. I DID take the persons name and time/date of call down. Do u think i should insist on getting it in writing or am i being a little cautious?
    My advice for what its worth, you are clear for .22 rf and up to 17hmr,do not use your hornet on that ground [assuming you dont have an open ticket] until you have authority to do so, tbh mate I would not like to be in the position of trying to defend myself on the strength of someone not ringing me back, ring them again,ask them if they have put your ground up to .22hornet,always aire on the side of caution mate,your ticket is too precious to take chances.

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    e-mail them and ask for a reply via e-mail then at least you can print it off and it's written words.

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    Thanks for your suggestions. Decided to ring them again and ask for written confirmation this morning. Surprise surprise, they will look into it and ring me back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bladesman View Post
    Thanks for your suggestions. Decided to ring them again and ask for written confirmation this morning. Surprise surprise, they will look into it and ring me back.
    all calls are logged but always get it in writing. always check, someone always cocks up!
    I had a permission letter about a municipal piece of ground which when I rang to confirm they told me they had given me the wrong details in the letter!
    If I had turned up to shoot without checking and been spotted I could have been in all sorts of bother/hassle

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whitebeard View Post
    You dont need anything in writing but you do need conformation on what "up to and including 17HMR" means.
    Many licensing offices rate cartridges in order of size not power and on that basis you would not be allowed to use any of your calibres.
    However if they have based it on power of the cartridge then you will be okay to use your .22LR but not the Hornet im afraid.

    Ian.
    Definitely the crux of the matter Whitebeard. The person i rang 19/4 said ok to use rimmy and hornet if he didnt ring back. Person i rang this morning didnt know and said she'd pass it on to supervisor and ring me back, person i phoned this afternoon (cos they didnt ring me back!!!), said i am ok to use rimmy only. When i asked if she could email me confirmation she took my email address and said it would be 'about a week'. Is it this painful at other licensing departments or is it just ours????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by bladesman View Post
    Is it this painful at other licensing departments or is it just ours????????
    Its that painful with my FLO as well mate.

    Ian.

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