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Thread: Old Heym rifle models

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    Old Heym rifle models

    Does anyone know where I can get info on old Heym Rifles? I found one in 8X57 that looks like it has been sat in someones collection unused. It looks like it would predate the SR20 by a fair bit. The bolt looks mauser based with a strange paddle on the top for the safety.

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    Just buy it and ask questions latter. You can't buy a bad german sporting mauser in 8x57 - they don't exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brenneke View Post
    Just buy it and ask questions latter. You can't buy a bad german sporting mauser in 8x57 - they don't exist.
    I do love Heym rifles. I had never seen an old one before and it does look quite special. What do others think on this?

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    My local gun shops got a really nice heym Swarovski combo up at the mo z, cracking piece of kit !

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    ....another thing I wondered is the ballistic data I have read on the 8x57 means that it would be running close to legal minimum of 2450fps and it might not be safe to run hotter loads through an old rifle. Any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acm View Post
    My local gun shops got a really nice heym Swarovski combo up at the mo z, cracking piece of kit !
    My first rifle was (still got it) an sr20 in .270 with a 6X42 habicht. I didn't know how good it was until I started playing with other rifles!

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    Does it have proof marks? I think if it has proof marks it will be one of their post war rifles, and should be very safe to run to around the 60 000 PSI mark. But i would be confident you could get 2450fps out of and german-made '98, although you may wish to do it with lower pressures and lighter bullets. The 160gr Barnes TTSX would be a great option. I think Heym did do some rifles with surplus military actions, in which quality control may have been a little more variable, but 2350fps with the 160gr would still be very, very conservative. Does it have a thumb slot? Heym did make the "west german boder guard rifle" - these where a weak action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brenneke View Post
    Does it have proof marks? I think if it has proof marks it will be one of their post war rifles, and should be very safe to run to around the 60 000 PSI mark. But i would be confident you could get 2450fps out of and german-made '98, although you may wish to do it with lower pressures and lighter bullets. The 160gr Barnes TTSX would be a great option. I think Heym did do some rifles with surplus military actions, in which quality control may have been a little more variable, but 2350fps with the 160gr would still be very, very conservative. Does it have a thumb slot? Heym did make the "west german boder guard rifle" - these where a weak action.
    Don't think so. Next time I get the opportunity I have a closer look and take some photos.

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    And sorry, i meant to say before that it sounds to me from your description of the safety that the rifle was one of the mauser actions Heym built during the mid 60's to 70's.

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    How strange as after all twas Mauser in 1905 that sent the military powers into a spin after introducing the new 7.92mm JS round with it's pointed 154 grain "Spitzer" bullet of 0.323" diameter at over 2900fps.

    The 7.92mm J round that preceded it had a bullet diameter of 0.318". Now pure commercial sporting rifles were still built using the 7.92mmJ cartridge and bullet up into the 1930's and even 40's.

    As mentioned the German proof marking should indicate bore however I will add they can be a bugger to decipher. So unless you convinced that this Heym is pre WW2 then the chances are high it has the later larger bore. A simple bore measurement or slugging will tell for sure.

    As for your worries on it being deer legal well S&B load a nice 196grain SPCE load that gives 2600 fps or a bit more plenty legal enough methinks.

    Oh yes it seems the Turks were not so worried as you and their 154 grain military ammunition produced velocites in the high 2900fps to just over 3,000 fps in cases as found by those who chronographed some in America.

    Edit:- Germany had and has strict proof regulations and always have had so there will be proof marks.

    Photos of the rifle would help those who seem to know about the Heym's help you identify it.

    Please keep us informed as to if you get it or not.

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