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    Stalking / Climbing deaths in Scotland

    Hi there,

    I'm hoping some of you Scots guys can help me. We are currently doing some research, and for it I need to know how many human deaths occur in the Highlands of Scotland each year - preferably for the past 5 years.

    I would like to know how many human deaths occur through falling, hypothermia, or other injuries whilst stalking (stalkers and clients).

    I would also like to know how many deaths occur through falling, slipping, hypothermia amongst walkers and climbers.

    I look forward to receiving any information, and if any stalkers know of - or were with a client when an accident occurred - I would be particularly interested in taking to you.

    If anyone knows, or can advise me where I can find out this information, I would be grateful for your help

    Best regards,

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    Can not give you exact figures, but three years ago four people died in Glen Coe in one week. I cannot think of one fatality while out stalking, guided or not.
    The Scottish mountain council would be able to give figures, or try the rescue teams.
    Cheers
    Mick

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    There was a chap who died out stalking but it was a heart attack but i know no one has died stalking .That was one of the reasons why the legislation didn't go through unchallenged i am sure there were many threads on here about it. Because the then DCS now SNH had said there had been deaths caused through deer stalking directly or indirectly. They also said the standard of shooting was appalling it then was found out that the deer selected for the study were from the fc CONTRACTORS.

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    Try this for your answer, http://www.mountainrescuescotland.or...-1996-2005.pdf might be out of date but contains good statistics. Jim

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    Strange pairing of stats.... Stalking/Climbing.

    As 6p has indicated, stalking deaths in Scotland are almost unheard of. The number works out at several years per death rather than deaths per year and even then the causes of death are usually nothing actually to do with the fact that stalking is the activity.

    On the other hand, Hillwalkers and "Mountaineeeeeers" keep going up our mountains in the equivalent of their pyjamas and seem to drop off at a pretty regular rate, dozens per year. You have to admire the Darwin principle, don't you?

    Why not go for a pairing of Stalking/Smoking... That'll give you a lot more deaths.

    It's Ok, you don't need to pardon my sarcasm. But, you might take on board the observation.

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    The only shooting-related one I can remember is this one:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2682...pers-life.html

    and http://www.scotcourts.gov.uk/opinions/ARMSTRONG.html

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    Excellent stuff guys,

    Many thanks for that. In just half an hour too.

    Your help is much appreciated.

    regards,

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    Can't give you figures, contact Scottish mountain council, they will help,know of some injury's while stalking and a couple of heart attacks but no fatality's.

    Also know of two shepherds who lost their lives in the hills


    I was a Mountain Rescue Team member 25 years now retired and was involved in my fair share of rescues thankfully most were not fatal, though involved with a fair few that were, its hard to generalise but I would say the vast majority of rescues were through ignorance by that I mean not being prepared for the conditions, very seldom called out for experienced hill men be they stalkers, shepherds or climbers, most were those that it would be a good idea to go for a stroll on the hill.

    However it would be wrong to quote figures from my team as you want an overall figure, and other teams might have different experiences.


    Scottish Mountain Council, should be able to give all the figures you need .

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    I heard tell of a French client a few years ago who was stalking near Dunoon. Apparently he was wearing nylon waterproof trousers, and he slipped on the heather and went down the hill like a toboggan! He died from the fall.

    I was stalking with Colin Chisholm at the time, and it was one of the guys at the larder who was telling me the story.

    Has anybody heard about this incident???

    Regards,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jelendeer View Post
    I heard tell of a French client a few years ago who was stalking near Dunoon. Apparently he was wearing nylon waterproof trousers, and he slipped on the heather and went down the hill like a toboggan! He died from the fall.

    I was stalking with Colin Chisholm at the time, and it was one of the guys at the larder who was telling me the story.

    Has anybody heard about this incident???

    Regards,
    This one was near the rest and be thankful. I had a look for an article but can't find anything. I remember it happening but couldn't be sure on the date. Must be 10-15 years ago.

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