Second attempt at deerstalking, courtesy of a generous SD member

Hello everyone.

Following my first two unsuccessful stalks in awful weather conditions with Sikamalc a fortnight ago, I posted on the SD that I was looking for another chance to shoot a deer in the London area, as Malc is fully booked for the summer. Amongst the responses I received (thanks everyone!), came one very generous one from a gentleman offering to take me out after muntjac on his ground for no charge, just out of the goodness of his heart and to help a newcomer out. I won’t name him as I suspect he doesn’t want to be swamped with requests for similar treatment, but I just want to say how much I appreciate it. It’s good to know that there are genuinely generous, helpful people out there, prepared to take a chance on someone they don’t know from Adam.

Anyway, we met at the appointed place around 5pm, and headed off to a large wood which we slowly walked through to help me get my bearings. As always, I was looking to learn from watching and was actively encouraged to ask questions (but quietly, without slamming the car door, sorry…). It was a different proposition from Malc’s ground in West Sussex, for a start because it wasn’t hammering down with rain and the ground wasn’t a quagmire. Of course, this also meant that leaves crunched underfoot and it was a lot harder to move stealthily. There was quite a lot of low shrubbery and undergrowth in what I was told had been an impenetrable wood up to a few years ago. It had taken a lot of work to clear the rides, open the woods out a bit and generally make it possible to stalk in them. Evidence of muntjac was everywhere with slots dotted around the ground.

The brilliant deer dog several times pointed insistently at patches of wood but without its’ nose, we could not see beyond the vegetation, and pushed on along the rides. At one point, the dog was very insistent indeed, we froze, until it flushed a hen pheasant from a ditch at our feet, causing me to noisily burst out laughing (again, sorry…). However, after an hour or so, we hadn’t seen any muntjac, and so repaired to a double highseat at the crossing of the main, grassy ride and a clearing leading onto a wheat field, and settled down to await the deer.

This was my first time in a highseat, and I had to experiment with the various positions around it to be able to bring the rifle to bear in different directions. After an hour or so, we had seen many squirrels, jays, pheasants, but no sight of a muntjac. And yet they were around, as every so often, two bucks would start challenging each other, invisibly around us. I’d heard them before, but never really paid that much attention. Sitting in this vantage point, I found myself hunting by ear, working out where they were, where they were moving too, where they were most likely to appear if they ever broke cover, only they didn’t. We had one fleeting glimpse of a small doe right at the edge of the field for a couple of seconds, and that was it.

Around 8.30pm, my host suggested that we descend to ground level and have a look in the field before we lost the light. He crawled under the hedge, and came back signalling that there were three deer in the field. I took his place, and sure enough, there was a large buck around 200m away in the top corner, a very small buck and a doe around 180m away. As the wheat was about 30-40cm high already, they kept dipping in and out of sight, not offering a shot. The large buck vanished quite quickly, which is how he became large in the first place, and the two others kept coming in and out of sight. I settled the rifle on the bipod and followed them through the sight, waiting for the confirmation of which one to shoot. Eventually, I was told to take the doe if a shot presented itself. Also, I was told to stop shaking! Which I did, especially as I lay there hoping for a shot for a good ten minutes. I have to admit that when I did shoot, it was a slightly desperate shot with a rifle I’d never used before. The wheat was halfway up the doe, and I aimed just above it to avoid the bullet being deflected. I must have unconsciously aimed a little higher than I planned because the bullet went over the top of the deer, damn it! Interestingly, the doe and the small buck didn’t immediately run off. With hindsight, I could have taken the shot again, but I didn’t have the confidence. Next time, I will.

It wasn’t all over yet though, because it seems that what eventually drove the muntjac away was the arrival of a heavily pregnant roe doe, who ambled along the hedge, oblivious to our presence until she paused perhaps 10-15m in front of us. We waited until she moved off of her own accord, and I managed to take the blurry iPhone snap below, having left my proper camera on the far side of the hedge. Again, a privilege to share her cud-chewing at such close quarters: I hope she successfully delivers a couple of bucks for next season! Then we moved off, glassing one last field on the way back out of pure hope, but that was our lot.
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So although no deer were hurt in the writing of this post, another valuable experience, and a great new encounter with someone that I will no doubt be seeing again. Sorry I disappointed you, I realise that you really, really wanted me to bag my first deer. I promise to come back and make amends as soon as possible! In the meantime, time to get some practice in down the range.
 
Good write up indeed PM
I found out that you're a mate of scrumbag, maybe that explains your noisiness, he can't stop the yelling out either..........

Better luck next time mate, the munties aren't the biggest target in the world, so there's no shame in missing one at the sort of distances you mention - off a bipod - with someone else's rifle
At least you didn't wound it, that's the main thing

ATB
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Thanks very much everyone, I'll keep you posted on further adventures. Geoshot, I can't be all that noisy otherwise that doe wouldn't have hung around!
 
Good account PM and a nice change of aspect, not someone shooting half a dozen Deer again. As Geoshot says they aren't the biggest of targets especially at that range plus they don't like to stand still for long, best of luck next time.
 
Thanks very much everyone, I'll keep you posted on further adventures. Geoshot, I can't be all that noisy otherwise that doe wouldn't have hung around!

Bad luck PM, you'll get that first I'm sure! And at least a clean miss so in the end a good outcome.

(And don't worry, at least you had the good sense not to go stalking in breeks unlike someone we could mention. Mind you, it was November, perhaps he thought he would change the barrel out on his Blaser and have a go at the pheasants...)
 
Nice write up pm, after i shot my first munty i spent the next week a gibbering wreck:D
 
Hey Pine Marten,

I do hope you do better at stalking than you've done with wildfowling! How many seasons is it now, and you've still not "broken your duck"? The only goose you've eaten has been at my house... and I don't even go wildfowling :rofl:

Sika James

PS: if no luck then, I'll see if we arrange a roe doe for you next winter.
 
and I don't even go wildfowling :rofl:.

Well exactly. Driven shooting doesn't really count. Good shots though, and excellent goosey lunch!

PS: if no luck then, I'll see if we arrange a roe doe for you next winter.

That's very kind of you, although from November onwards, travelling to Durham for fieldsports adventures may be more complicated for me as you know. I'll take you up on your offer one day though! I need to add venison to my barbecue repertoire.
 
Hey Pine Marten,

I do hope you do better at stalking than you've done with wildfowling! How many seasons is it now, and you've still not "broken your duck"? The only goose you've eaten has been at my house... and I don't even go wildfowling :rofl:

Sika James

PS: if no luck then, I'll see if we arrange a roe doe for you next winter.[/QUOTE


Funny you should say that James i had snowy here this morning and he mentioned about pine marten's bad luck wildfowling and he was thinking of inviting him over to yorkshire for a bit of duck shooting.
If he accepts his offer and comes up i would be more than willing to take him out for a forshore goose and evening inland duck flight while he is here.

Got to admire someone who puts the effort in like that, not easy i would of thought using public transport and living the middle of london.
Sometimes you dont realise how lucky you are having easy reach of the countryside, so if you are up for it lawrence the offer is there. DF
 
I must be more famous than I realise as I have no idea who Snowy is!

Thanks for the offer though, that's very kind. You never know if I find myself around your neck of the woods for some reason, and if that happens, I'll let you know!
 
Hi Lawrence as df said we were discussing the above issues the other day as you've probably twigged we're both on the wildfowling forum, so know a little of your dilemma. To cut a long story short if you'd like to pm me to make arrangements you could stop off in yorkshire either on your way up or down to durham an I'll take you out for a couple of flights on our clubs local rivers as we now do a day permit.Can't guarantee you a duck but you'll certainly dirty your barrels, may even be able to squeeze a stalk in.

snowy
ps look at my profile page on the wildfowling forum snowy6139 an you'll see this is not a **** take.
 
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ps look at my profile page on the wildfowling forum snowy6139 an you'll see this is not a **** take.

I didn't think for one second that it would be! Lots of generous and helpful people offer me opportunities on both forums, I'm just limited in my ability to accept them all. Thanks very much, the offer is appreciated!
 
Bad luck PM, you'll get that first I'm sure! And at least a clean miss so in the end a good outcome.

(And don't worry, at least you had the good sense not to go stalking in breeks unlike someone we could mention. Mind you, it was November, perhaps he thought he would change the barrel out on his Blaser and have a go at the pheasants...)

I also agree, write up very interesting, we have all....been there, and I suppose, we continue to do so, and in any event what is wrong with stalking in Breeks!!, very comfortable, waterproof, midge proof etc.etc
 
I also agree, write up very interesting, we have all....been there, and I suppose, we continue to do so, and in any event what is wrong with stalking in Breeks!!, very comfortable, waterproof, midge proof etc.etc

Don't suppose a dead dear would mind if you were wearing breeks, be just as dead whatever you were wearing.
 
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