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Thread: Air rifles shots up in the air? FSB's team wild

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    Air rifles shots up in the air? FSB's team wild

    right, so it's like this. Shooting up in the air at birds on branches with fac or even 12 ft/lb jobs. Where do you stand? I see any up in the air shot from an air gun without a backstop as unsafe since where is the pellet coming down? out of sight in most cases I'd bet. In woodland where horizontal field of vision are restricted you can't afford to send shots off where potentially they could come down and injure people near by or livestock in fields just over, can you?? .

    So I see the team wild guys dinging away at pigeons in the last FSB episode and I was very uncomfortable with the idea of a 30 ft/lb fac air rifle sending shots at birds when some were said to have been 'scared' but obviously missed. I do like the program but I didn't like the lack of concern for the type of shots being made that with perhaps an explanation about the fields or fallout area behind was 'safe' etc and that is essential before shooting, I could have understood maybe.

    that's the first time I though WTF, maybe i'm being silly?

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    Get real thousands of corvids have been shot like this and will continue to be shot this way even using .22 rf shorts.

    What next complaints about people shooting geese in the air without a backstop using 10g magnums a BB's !

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    I agree Paul, I'd rather shotgun them out the trees to ensure any pellets land close as no one wants to send off a bullet of any calibre without knowing where it'll end up! Well I wouldn't anyway!! I have used No.22 shot on a .22 rifle. It's almost like grains of sand, ideally used inside shed so they don't penetrate the asbestos roofing. Really safe and suitable for the shooting team wild was doing this week. Worth a thought.

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    'get real'? seriously don't be a dick. Are you're saying it's safe to fire a .22rf in the air, if so you shouln't hold an fac because a .22rf can travel between 1-2 kilometers if fired delibrately in the air.

    I'm not talking about wildfowling get a grip

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    I kicked 4 guys off a woodland next to my house (100yds) they were shooting "branchers" with 22rf, the ricochets were crazy, it sounded like an old western. You can tell when they go over your head BTW. The guy claimed he was only shooting with a safe backstop, I pointed out that the branches where the crows were were the thickness of his thumb.....

    I was prompted to say something when a bullet came down ten feet from me and cracked onto a plank that was lying in the garden, my daughter was in her pram asleep nearby..

    Nothing wrong with shooting birds in trees but the location, and caliber / bullet need to be appropriate. A 30gn 22 round coming back down may not have the energy to kill but it would definitely hurt, and the thought of one hitting my little girl was enough to make me do something. Apart from that it would put a nice ding in your car roof or break a slate on your roof...

    Its all down to common sense. Like many things in life.

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    hang on a minute
    we are talking about air rifles here not .22lr

    an air rifle pellet weighs as little as less than a tenth of a .22lr and whether or not fired through a 30ftlbs FAC rated rifle or not the chance of it carrying enough energy to injure under terminal velocity (assuming a vertical shot) even if the unlucky victim happened to be hit.

    IMO it would have to be a freak of almost biblical proportions to injure someone from such a shot. but hat said I wouldnt be doing it in a public park!

    there are hail stones coming down with more weight. around here lately anyway,

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    I doubt the fall out range of a 12ft/lb pellet will be much further, if as far, as a no 5 fired out of a 12 guage!! Probably much safer as with the air rifle only lets go of one projectile rather than 20!

    You are also forgetting the noise aspect... Air rifles are slightly more noise friendly than a shotgun!!!!!

    I think all this pulling apart of our only decent hunting TV show is getting rediculous, lets shut them down and have nothing eh!?

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    I can't see a problem using an air rifle for this purpose, not a 22 as someone else said though...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bewsher500 View Post
    hang on a minute
    we are talking about air rifles here not .22lr

    an air rifle pellet weighs as little as less than a tenth of a .22lr and whether or not fired through a 30ftlbs FAC rated rifle or not the chance of it carrying enough energy to injure under terminal velocity (assuming a vertical shot) even if the unlucky victim happened to be hit.

    IMO it would have to be a freak of almost biblical proportions to injure someone from such a shot. but hat said I wouldnt be doing it in a public park!

    there are hail stones coming down with more weight. around here lately anyway,
    5.5mm air gun slugs weight around 15gr usually and at 12 ft/lb a slug is doing 600fps. A fac air rifle at 30 ft/lb is sending the slug at 940 fps and lets not forget a .22rf subsonic is only travelling a liitle faster at about 1000fps and weighs usually 40gr. The shots at woodies I saw were at about 25-45 degrees I would say.

    Air rifles are not safe because they are less powerful and even a pellet with significantly reduced energy can cause serious injury at distance.

    Up and down high angle shots are generally safe yes I'd agree

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    At the end of the day it depends on location as to what's safe and what isn't. I often shoot squirrels and pigeons in trees at various angles with my .17 sub 12ft/lb air rifle but the trees are surrounded by large fields with no one around - I wouldn't use the 22lr or 17hmr as they will chuck the bullet through the quarry species and also over the boundary - that would be a criminal offense as well as dangerous in the areas I shoot.

    If I had permission on land that was vast, and no public access, I may think differently about using the rimfires. Although there is something satisfying about knocking pigeons and squirrels down with an air rifle so probably wouldn't use anything else anyway
    A pat on the back is often just a recce for the knife.

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