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    FAC for 14 year old

    How many of you out there have successfully put in for a FAC for a 14 year old? Being a law abiding citizen I want to do things by the book! I will be taking the lad out rabbitting. Any useful advice based on your own experience would be appreciated.

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    I am just looking into applying for coterminous FAC and SGC for my son now , spoke to the local FLO this morning to see if they could forsee any problems .

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    I think you have to be 18 for a fac. Sgc - minimum 14 years old

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pro_guitar View Post
    I think you have to be 18 for a fac. Sgc - minimum 14 years old
    I will need to know if I am wrong but as far as I am aware there is no minimum for the SGC and 14yrs is min for FAC.

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    Pro-guitar, i dont where you get your information from but its wrong. No minimum age for Shotgun Licence but 10 yrs old seems to be as young as parents like to start their kids on their own licence.

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    Not out one in for a minor myself but I had one from the first opportunity.
    no issues, coterminous, the minor doesnt own any weapons I pressume so the licence is (or should be) an administrative element as 99% of the time you will be with them. That was certainly the case with me until I could drive!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tackleberry270 View Post
    I will need to know if I am wrong but as far as I am aware there is no minimum for the SGC and 14yrs is min for FAC.
    Correct. No minimum age for a shotgun certificate. Minimum age of 14 yrs for a firearm certificate. There is nothing in Law to prevent your 14 yr old from applying now.
    There are a small but significant number of young firearm certificate holders so go ahead and apply. Good luck.

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    Following the Firearms (Amendment) Regulations 2010 the following now applies with regard to firearms and young people:

    UNDER 14 YEARS OF AGE
    No-one under the age of 14 may use a Section 1 Firearm except for target shooting as a
    member of a Home Office approved rifle club; or at a shooting gallery where no rifles
    larger than .23 inch calibre are used (e.g. at Fairs).
    14 TO 17 YEARS OF AGE
    At the age of 14 a person may hold a firearm certificate and may then be given firearms
    and ammunition within the conditions on the certificate.
    The law does not set a minimum age at which the holder of a firearm certificate may
    shoot without adult supervision. That is left to the discretion of the parent or guardian.
    NEW - 18 AND OVER
    On reaching the age of 18, the holder of a firearm certificate may hire or purchase
    firearms and ammunition in accordance with the conditions on that certificate.
    THE FIREARMS (AMENDMENT) ACT 1988
    The above act made it lawful for someone of, or over, the age of 17 to borrow a rifle from
    the occupier of private land and use it, on that land, in the presence of the occupier but
    only under the conditions on that certificate. Under these circumstances the rifle can also
    be borrowed from a “servant of the occupier”, for example a gamekeeper. “In the
    presence of” is taken to mean “within sight and earshot”.
    NEW – “The Firearms (Amendment) Regulations 2010” now requires the lending occupier
    or servant must be 18 or over when lending to 17 year olds.
    For borrowers who are 18 years or older, the lender may be of any age providing they are
    an occupier or servant of an occupier and hold a firearm certificate for the rifle being lent
    under the provisions of the estate rifle provision.

    The following applies to possession of shotguns by young people:

    NON- CERTIFICATE HOLDERS
    If you wish to use a shotgun and do not have a certificate you may only do so in the following
    circumstances;
    a) Borrowing a shotgun from the occupier of private land, in his/her presence (if you
    are the borrower and under 18 the lender must be aged 18 years or older.)
    Or when;
    b) Shooting at a police-approved clay shooting layout.
    15 TO 17 YEARS OF AGE
    Between 15 and 17, with a certificate, you may be given or lent a shotgun (and cartridges) for up to 72
    hours by another certificate holder and use them on private premises without supervision.
    Making a gift of a shotgun requires an adult (18 or older) to follow the instructions on his shotgun
    certificate. In practice this means conducting a full transfer of the shotgun by making an entry in table
    two of the young recipient’s certificate stating the word “gift” in the relevant box. Both the person
    giving and receiving the shotgun must then inform their own police licensing departments of the
    transaction within 7 days by recorded delivery or by email to the email address designated by the
    issuing authority.
    Once you have been gifted a shotgun you may also lend your shotgun to other certificate holders for up
    to 72 hours without the need for a written transfer to be made. If you have to lend your shotgun for
    longer than 72 hours you must make an entry into table two of the borrower’s certificate. Both the
    person transferring and receiving the shotgun must then inform their own police licensing departments
    of the transaction within 7 days by recorded delivery or by email to the email address designated by the
    issuing authority. When the shotgun is returned to you; the same process applies but in reverse.
    UNDER 15 YEARS OF AGE
    In this age group if you hold a certificate you are only allowed to borrow a shotgun. There are two ways
    to do so; firstly for 72 hours according to certificate instructions (i.e. without completing any written
    transfer or notification to police), and secondly by written transfer by the lender onto table 2 of the
    recipients certificate and a notification to police by both parties (as per certificate instructions). You
    may not purchase, hire or be gifted a shotgun or ammunition.
    Additionally; in all circumstances you may only possess an assembled shotgun when supervised by an
    adult aged 21 or over, or if the gun is in a securely fastened gun cover so that it cannot be fired.

    Information supplied by BASC.

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    There should be no issues if he is a good kid if you do not get one of their teachers (normally head or at least head of year) to be a referee they will seek a referance from the school anyway.

    My lad was granted a co-terminus FAC / SGC at 14

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    I am just waiting for my lads FAC to arrive, he is 14yrs old. He will obviously be accompanied when using a firearm but there are occasions where he can be 'accompanied at a distance' as such ie. placed in a nearby highseat etc so long as another FAC holder (over 18 yrs old) is within reasonable view / distance of him. He cant buy his own firearm or ammunition until he is 17 yrs old but can e gifted one. So his first rifle will probably arrive around birthday time, then he can stop hogging one of mine. The application process has been good learning for him and I have noticed a matured change in him as he accepts the additional responsibility of a FAC holder. His intention is to attend DSC 1 on his own in the near future so I am pleased with his continued interest.
    Last edited by norseman; 08-06-2012 at 12:36.

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