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    this is the freedom of speech

    This was written by a Canadian woman, but oh how it also applies to the U..S. , U.K. and Australia


    Here is a woman who should run for Prime Minister!

    Written by a housewife in New Brunswick, to her local newspaper. This is one ticked off lady. .................................................. ........................................

    'Are we fighting a war on terror or aren't we? Was it or was it not started by Islamic people who brought it to our shores on September 11, 2001 and have continually threatened to do so since?

    Were people from all over the world, not brutally murdered that day, in downtown Manhattan , across the Potomac from the nation's capitol and in a field in Pennsylvania ?

    Did nearly three thousand men, women and children die a horrible, burning or crushing death that day, or didn't they?

    And I'm supposed to care that a few Taliban were claiming to be tortured by a justice system of the nation they come from and are fighting against in a brutal insurgency.

    I'll start caring when Osama bin Laden turns himself in and repents for incinerating all those innocent people on 9/11..

    I'll care about the Koran when the fanatics in the Middle East start caring about the Holy Bible, the mere belief of which is a crime punishable by beheading in Afghanistan .

    I'll care when these thugs tell the world they are sorry for hacking off Nick Berg's head while Berg screamed through his gurgling slashed throat.

    I'll care when the cowardly so-called 'insurgents' in Afghanistan come out and fight like men instead of disrespecting their own religion by hiding in mosques and behind women and children.

    I'll care when the mindless zealots who blows themselves up in search of nirvana care about the innocent children within range of their suicide bombs.

    I'll care when the Canadian media stops pretending that their freedom of speech on stories is more important than the lives of the soldiers on the ground or their families waiting at home to hear about them when something happens.

    In the meantime, when I hear a story about a CANADIAN soldier roughing up an Insurgent terrorist to obtain information, know this:

    I don't care.

    When I see a wounded terrorist get shot in the head when he is told not to move because he might be booby-trapped, you can take it to the bank:

    I don't care.

    When I hear that a prisoner, who was issued a Koran and a prayer mat, and 'fed special' food that is paid for by my tax dollars, is complaining that his holy book is being 'mishandled,' you can absolutely believe in your heart of hearts:

    I don't care.

    And oh, by the way, I've noticed that sometimes it's spelled 'Koran' and other times 'Quran.' Well, Jimmy Crack Corn you guessed it,

    I don't care!!

    If you agree with this viewpoint, pass this on to all your E-mail friends Sooner or later, it'll get to the people responsible for this ridiculous behaviour!

    If you don't agree, then by all means hit the delete button. Should you choose the latter, then please don't complain when more atrocities committed by radical Muslims happen here in our great Country! And may I add:

    'Some people spend an entire lifetime wondering if they made a difference in the world. But, the Soldiers don't have that problem.'

    I have another quote that I would like to add, AND.......I hope you forward all this.

    One last thought for the day:

    Only five defining forces have ever offered to die for you:

    1. Jesus Christ

    2. The Canadian Soldier.

    3. The British Soldier..

    4. The US Soldier, and

    5. The Australian Soldier

    One died for your soul, the other 4 for your freedom.



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    Way to go !! how very true it all is.

    Pity politicians dont stand up in parliment and put the political correctness crap to one side and say it how it is like this lady has done.

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    And here is an alternative view ....

    "Are we fighting a war on terror?" Of course we aren't - you may as well ask if we fighting a war on rail travel. - the are both a means to an end. The phrase is a glib political sound bite that was deliberately used to make the speaker sound tough.

    Yes we are in a 'war' - as a nation we have been fighting pretty much non-stop since 1945. For a whole load of very good reasons we also profess to fight our wars according to a set of broad rules - and torturing and abusing prisoners isn't part of the package.

    Many folk will sympathise & empathise with this lady's sentiments. Her statements are an interesting mix of emotive information and selective history. Unfortunately (and the real danger) it simply encourages us to 'not care' about other people - which is all fine and dandy when it is some little brown geezer in an orange jump suit, but what about when legal process is suspended or abused and it is you or one of your relatives that is in the clink?

    As for her "5 defining forces..." She missed out the Indian Soldier in WW2. The largest volunteer army the world has ever seen, consisting in the main of 'little brown geezers' who were Hindus, Sikhs, Muslims, Gurkhas, Rajputs, Dogras, Pathans etc etc....

    You can get a good idea of her 'world view' cos she missed out the New Zealanders as well. Any Kiwis reading this? You are certainly one of my 'defining forces'! Oh, and the Rhodesians of course ....... Basically any white, Anglo-Saxon, Christian, English speaking folk are obviously on the 'right' side and everybody else? Well..........

    Me? I do wonder who really wrote that letter.....?

    I would commend folk to the 'Pastor Niemoller' prayer, the one that includes, "When they came for the Jews, ...."

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    Bandit Country, just in case you didn't have relatives involved in this, here's a reminder!! This was the UK

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    Downwind - don't think that I don't care about what happened, and is happening, and please don't make any patronising assumptions about my own very personal experience of terrorism.

    My post has nothing to do with what happened. My post is about how we respond to the problem. Dehumanising people and adopting a"Don't care" attitude dooms us all.

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    Bandit Country, I'm sure the SD members will decide for themselves about " wars on terror". Perhaps a question for "tartin- jock" to respond to. Not us in safe old GB?
    Cheers, Pete.

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    trying not to offend anyone

    Bandit country :I posted this up as a mainly a interest point of view, under the heading freedom of speech, thats what it is at the end of the day.

    I like many other before me and after me have served the colours, which I did gladly ,I made that choice ,freedom of choice as since the end of national service ,men and women have .

    The woman who allegedly wrote this has no doubt ,had a a belly load of how there is much one way traffic, when it comes down to the service personnel of the countries ,involved being accused of all sorts whilst trying to stay alive ,in the process and to try and make these countries better for the generations to come .

    When it comes down to serving in this type of theater of operation, it is no mean feat ,the conditions that the soldiers are living in ,the heat they are working in all make the job no easier, then there's the people that they are trying to help, the terrorists they are trying to oust you don't have a cue who they are, they can be helping you one minute and shooting at you the next .

    I do empathize with these soldiers, that are currently serving as does the author of the the letter, who to reiterate had a belly full of the goody goody people out there saying we must do this and that .

    The life expectancy of an Afghan man is 46 years old, and has been for a long time, long before any conflict, that is what it is a conflict NOT a war thats the American version .

    What we must remember, is that service men and women all over the world, only go and do what they are told by there government , no more and no less .

    I got the T shirt, starred in the big movie, there wasn't much fun to be had ,for anyone ,who comes from a civilised part of the world ,I came home with a lot of bad memories, a few quid in the bank and another medal to go with the rest , that will never see the light of day .

    I'll Apologise to anyone for whom ,I have offended be placing any of these posts up , I like many others follow the views of this woman .

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    Widows son, believe one thing- late it may be(cider maybe on board) you have nothing to appologise for!! You have the support of the majority of most right- thinking Englishmen. That's the beauty of democracy!! We are all entitled to express our opinions.
    Bandit Country- I make no assumptions about your experiences of Terrorism, please, make no assumptions of mine!!
    Best wishes Pete.

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