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Thread: Dont understand what i have been granted on my firearms

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    Dont understand what i have been granted on my firearms

    I applied for a 243 rifle with interchangable barrels in 308 and 30-06
    The licence has come back and my wife emailed to say i have been granted the following
    does anyone know what it is

    It says i am allowed to purchase 7.62mm x 51/30 barrel, 243 win rifle
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    well the 7.62 by 51 is the .308 NATO, a .243 is a .243, and a 7.62 30 is a 30-30? the 30-06 should have been 7.62x63 IMHO..

    others will know better.

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    You have been granted permission to have my 30-06 sent to your rfd......

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    I agree with PKL. The .243 is ok the .308 in metric is 7.62mmx51 and the .30-06 in metric is 7.62mmx63. It would appear that there has been a minor error in the description. Also check the description of the ammunition authorised as that could be a problem too. Ask the licensing unit to correct the .30-06 error.

    Quote Originally Posted by PKL View Post
    well the 7.62 by 51 is the .308 NATO, a .243 is a .243, and a 7.62 30 is a 30-30? the 30-06 should have been 7.62x63 IMHO..

    others will know better.

    the French border control would LOVE you! LOL..

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    This is going to turn into Chinese whispers - your wife emailed you something. You need to study the exact wording of the certificate yourself.

    From the very limited information that you have already supplied and if (very big if) it is written exactly as you have posted this limited information could be taken several different ways and is very unclear. Personally I would read it that you can purchase or aquire a .243 rifle and also a barrel in either 7.62 x51 mm or .30 calibre.
    If (again a very big if) it is written exactly as you say you need to get the firearms department to amend the certificate so as to clarify the situation and make perfectly clear to all what you can possess.

    P.S. To be pedantic 7.62x51mm (Nato) is not .308 winchester but is generally accepted by most to be so. There are several better ways of wording it on a certificate, on mine it is worded .308/7.62mm so as to permit me to buy either 7.62 or .308 ammunition. Some dealers and police forces are very specific on this.
    Last edited by 8x57; 20-06-2012 at 07:04.
    It's the calibre of the shooter that counts not the calibre of the rifle.

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    To me that reads;

    7.62x51 (.308) rifle + spare barrel in unspecified .30cal
    .243 rifle

    quite straightforward really

    Did you ask for 7.62x51?
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    8X57 , xelent info ! thats one of the reasons i love this site , people know what there talking about and give very good info to newbies like myself. I will remember this if and when i apply for a variation.

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    The only one that would appear to be correct is the .30 calibre barrel after all the certificate says calibre NOT cartridge.

    7.62x51 Nato is not the same as .308 Winchester there are differences in pressures and some other sizes of the case/neck and .243 Winchester is a cartridge and not a calibre.

    However as they make the rules up as they go along it's not as bad as some seen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8x57 View Post
    Personally I would read it that you can purchase or aquire a .243 rifle and also a barrel in either 7.62 x51 mm or .30 calibre.
    I'm so nearly with you there!

    I read it as acquire .243 rifle also, but I take it that they have granted the one barrel in 7.62x51mm/.30 calibre, (let's call it .308Win for the purpose of this thread), but not either. (And I realise as BH says, that one is a cartridge designation and the other a calibre, but that's often they way they operate).

    I believe the dual designation of 7.62mm/.30 calibre is FLD speak for the same item.

    I've had it before on my certificate(s) where they would list a metric (miltary) designation and also the imperial (civvy) one for the same firearm/barrel. I guess they want to cover all possibilities when it comes to purchasing, but IMO it just adds confusion.
    Last edited by Orion; 20-06-2012 at 08:32.

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    Orion like I said it could be read several ways. I think we are both of the same mind though that only one extra barrel is granted in addition to the .243 rifle?


    Like you say they are trying to cover all the bases but obviously because of only limited knowledge or experience just confuse the issue with their designations/descriptions e.g. 7.62/.30
    Last edited by 8x57; 20-06-2012 at 08:12.
    It's the calibre of the shooter that counts not the calibre of the rifle.

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