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Thread: What should I do with a misfired round?

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    What should I do with a misfired round?

    This evening I got barely 50m away from the car and a buck popped across the ride. Up goes the rifle freehand, safety off and then.....click but no bang. I cock the rifle and again ...click. By then the buck is looking at me from 30m away. So I cycle another round and drop him on the spot.


    Now my problem is that I have a round with a dimple in the primer from the firing pin and I don't know how to make it safe. The reason for the misfire I think is that the primer is seated a fraction too far into the case.


    What should I do? I am getting paranoid that it might go off!!!


    Cheers,

    Peri

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    Usually on the range they use a 6 second rule with a misfire if it has not gone off in that time its safe, I would just pull the bullet in the press tip out the powder push out the primer and put a new primer in and re load it.
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    Thanks Sikadog, but I have no reloading equipment. Would it be safe to use a pair of pliers?

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    find soft ground and push it in as far as you can.

    it will rot away.

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    The problem is that you do not know the basic safety drill to deal with a missfire. That is worrying.

    If you have a misfire you should hold the rifle steady with muzzle pointed at a safe back stop for at least 30 secs. Sorry Sikadog but 6 secs is no where near long enough to deal with a hangfire (delayed ignition) then after the 30 secs you should lower the rifle and once down carefully open the breech exposing as little of as possible and using just one finger and thumb to operate the bolt if bolt operated so if the round goes off as you open there is less of you to get injured. With just fingers tips holding top and bottom of knob the bolt should be able to fly past with taking fingers off.

    Once the round is clear of the breech you can eject it as per normal.

    if you are worried about the round and wish to dispose of it drop it into your local plod shop. They won't thank you of course but it's the way the licensing folks would want it dealt with.

    The missfire drill is part of the NRA RCO instruction course and ALL RCO's should be familiar with this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brithunter View Post
    The problem is that you do not know the basic safety drill to deal with a missfire. That is worrying.

    If you have a misfire you should hold the rifle steady with muzzle pointed at a safe back stop for at least 30 secs. Sorry Sikadog but 6 secs is no where near long enough to deal with a hangfire (delayed ignition) then after the 30 secs you should lower the rifle and once down carefully open the breech exposing as little of as possible and using just one finger and thumb to operate the bolt if bolt operated so if the round goes off as you open there is less of you to get injured. With just fingers tips holding top and bottom of knob the bolt should be able to fly past with taking fingers off.

    Once the round is clear of the breech you can eject it as per normal.

    if you are worried about the round and wish to dispose of it drop it into your local plod shop. They won't thank you of course but it's the way the licensing folks would want it dealt with.

    The missfire drill is part of the NRA RCO instruction course and ALL RCO's should be familiar with this.
    Sound advice

    Al

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brithunter View Post
    The problem is that you do not know the basic safety drill to deal with a missfire. That is worrying.

    .
    I think very few do, sadly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bobt View Post
    find soft ground and push it in as far as you can.

    it will rot away.
    Please don't joke about it bob because some naive person who doesn't know any better will see your comment think you are serious and then go and do exactly as you have said.
    It's the calibre of the shooter that counts not the calibre of the rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matt_hooks View Post
    It's perfectly safe. Even if it does go off, once it's outside the constraints of the chamber all you will get is a bang and the bullet and case parting company. Velocity will be very low as there's no chamber/barrel to provide a prolonged "push" from the powder.
    What's stated above is not quite correct.
    Should a hangfire cartridge explode outside the breech in 'Free air', it is likely to behave more like a small hand grenade, sending the bullet, primer and any parts of the case that split away in all directions.
    These days though, hangfires are pretty rare due to excellent quality control standards in manufacturing.

    Although the particular round in question is not now remotely likely to 'Go off' and may be dismatled safely, best using a bullet puller in a press or a kinetic hammer...your local dealer probably has one, call him to see if he can help.

    Brithunter is absolutely right in what he's written. If you've got a true hangfire purring away in the breech, it absolutely needs to stay there for a good while.

    The problem is, should a round fail to fire, you're not going to know if it was a failed primer or whether the primer has ignited and is burning slowly. So, leave the round in the breech for a while.
    Then 1/2 to 1 minute later extract as BH directs.
    Last edited by deeangeo; 21-06-2012 at 06:26.
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    Just to add to what others have said, under no circumstances ever put a live round in a vice to disassemble, the vice can fragment if the round goes off. IMO the most convenient way is with a bullet puller (either kinetic or die mounted), empty powder, deprime, examine and if sound, reload. If you have a fault with a defective factory round return it to your supplier for a refund/replacement and in the friendliest possible terms let them know how inconvenient it has been - if you do not tell them they will never know that something is wrong! atb Tim

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