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    Section 1 Shotgun Magazine Extensions

    It seems that the purchase of the above may be regulated in the future to prevent un-authorised capacity conversions from Section 2 to Section 1...some RFDs have had a "shot over their bows" from some Police Forces when they have supplied such items to those without authority to possess a Section 1 shotgun, the RFD could be implicated in any action taken against a shooter prosecuted for this breach, the RFD could be complicit in the eyes of the Police as the supplier...so they may be only acquired legally on the production of the FAC Section 1 authorisation. The shotgun needs to be proofed after such conversion,failure to do so is another offence,I am led to believe that you may still convert / de-restrict a Section 1 to a Section 2 without authority removing the FAC tag by notifiying the Police, and having the gun entered on your Shotgun Certificate as a 2+1. Also such conversion must be made irreversible by the crimping of the existing high capacity magazine or permanent fitting of a Section 2 short magazine tube if one is not already the first stage of the high capacity magazine which was crimped. So a variation may be required to acquire/possess a magazine extension in the future.

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    Nowt wrong with that. Should have done it years ago. Its not like you would want one for any other reason other than to increase the capacity of your shotgun ILLEGALLY. Now that temptation has been made all the harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakey View Post
    Nowt wrong with that. Should have done it years ago. Its not like you would want one for any other reason other than to increase the capacity of your shotgun ILLEGALLY. Now that temptation has been made all the harder.
    Why should it make it illegal. Perhaps I have an FAC shotgun, and I want to replace the tube on it with an higher capacity one, perhaps the one I have is faulty and I want to get a warrant replacement from the manufacturer. Why should I have to pay an RFD to get me the part when I can currently do it myself.

    Perhaps the hack saws I have in my tool box should be illegal in case I want to cut the shotgun barrel down?

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    I can't think of a shotgun for 2 shot that can be that easily converted.

    My Browning Gold came as a 5 shot from Belgium. I wanted it as a Shotgun so it went off to be crimped and proofed and was then issued.

    When I had reason and authority, with the help of the fellas at Sportsman Gun Centre it went back to Belgium for a new mag tube and then got issued on my FAC. Then I added a Briery Hill Extension to 10 shot.

    What shotgun has an unrestricted 2 shot tube that takes a READILY AVAILABLE tube extension?

    I understand the concern if there is such a thing but I can't put my finger on one.

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    The Benelli M1 was originally sold with a removable plastic restrictor that was easily removed in order to increase capacity from 2+1 to 4+1,these were deemed not permissible for the UK market ,only crimped and proofed guns were in Section 2 ,in addition an extension tube could be screwed on to the original tube and the mag spring replaced further increasing the payload,the M2 had a similar set-up originally.

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    My mate bought a Webley semi auto 3 shot and when he got a 5 shot on his fac all he did was knock out the crimp ,just 3bits off metal sticking in to the mag tube with a 17mm socket when he had put it on to his Fac .

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    Not sure there would be a requirement to re-proof as a mag extension not a pressure bearing part.

    Section 161 of the Highways Act 1980 (England & Wales) makes it an offence to discharge a firearm within 50 ft of the centre of a highway with vehicular rights without lawful authority or excuse, if as a result a user of the highway is injured, interrupted or endangered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apache View Post
    Not sure there would be a requirement to re-proof as a mag extension not a pressure bearing part.
    The proof certificate in the case described was to certify that the magazine capacity had been restricted to the required standard. If satisfied the proof house will mark the gun and issue a certificate.
    It's the calibre of the shooter that counts not the calibre of the rifle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 8x57 View Post
    The proof certificate in the case described was to certify that the magazine capacity had been restricted to the required standard. If satisfied the proof house will mark the gun and issue a certificate.
    ah OK.

    Section 161 of the Highways Act 1980 (England & Wales) makes it an offence to discharge a firearm within 50 ft of the centre of a highway with vehicular rights without lawful authority or excuse, if as a result a user of the highway is injured, interrupted or endangered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apache View Post
    Not sure there would be a requirement to re-proof as a mag extension not a pressure bearing part.
    Just bought a factory suplied 7+1 hatsan escort brand new, it had to go from edgars Bros to the proof house before getting to the rfd.
    I was told that i could have a 3 shot converted to a 5 via an extention but that it would need to be re-proofed.

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