Pere David's

My god - how the other half live!...

The whole advert sounds like ....'whilst you are on your way to Africa, "pop" into the UK to spend approx £20,000 in two days - A stag and a Spa'

Wow some must have money presses in their basements!

T
 
Yep, amazing how much money some of our transatlantic cousins spend on sport, but then some have a lot to spend. I remember loading for the guy who had the distribution contract for Pepsi in the US...can you imagine how much that was worth! And he knew how to spend it.

Having said that, that advert does leave a bit of a nasty taste..smacks a little of canned hunts...I wait to be corrected.
 
Physical requirement level=1

That to me says: don't worry, you won't have to get your shoes dirty, we'll practically line them up for you to shoot :evil:
 
It happens elsewhere !
I know a Park where an Italian member of the Safari Club turned up wearing a plaster cast on his leg !
He wounded a trophy class Red Stag with his .308 and the estate stalker went after it and dropped it with his .22/250 .
No doubt some tale would be subsequently told how he spent two days on a mountain , slept under the stars and eventually dropped the monster at 3oo yds with a neck shot .

HWH .
 
I have to say that I find this type of hunting wholly distasteful. I don't blame the estate for taking the money but what satisfaction can there be in knocking over a trophy (or any deer) in these circumstances?

I absolutely don't think that any medals should be awarded for stags/bucks shot on estates like this.
 
I’m a bit disappointed with the replies at this post , since none of you have been “stalking “there you should leave your replies to yourselves . I will tell you about my “stalk “at this estate .

This may be graded as a level-1 stalk but let me tell you its not that easy , you had to be ready by 11am that meant I was up by 9am breakfast, dressed , I barely made it.

Then it was a quick chat with the keeper about what “I” wanted from the day , I explained to him I had some big empty spaces in the trophy room and needed them filled with animals and money was no expense .I think the keep has poor blood circulation and feels the cold as all he kept doing was looking at me and rubbing his hands together (to keep warm).

By now it was lunch so off we went and had a splendid five course lunch (fully recommend the beef Wellington) then it was to he range for the not so easy hitting the target thing to see how you shoot. It amazes me how even though I have the best rifle and scope combination money can by I can not get the staff to zero it properly for me.

When I booked this hunt I asked the rifle smith to check the zero he told me to my face
“ she is shooting just under inch groups at 200m” how can this man have the audacity to say this to me then when I try the rifle I’m lucky to get two into the 6” circle at 100m. You cant seem to get the staff these days.

Anyway the keeper said not to worry about hitting the target the deer might if im lucky be a bit closer. As it was lady luck was on my side and the keeper told me that a lot of the deer needed their 6 monthly vitamin supplements and we might be able to stalk up or drive close while they were eating this essential requirement . So we let the quad bike with a couple of bags of this essential vitamins and minerals go in front.

These deer must are the smartest deer in the world as they know they must need the essential vitamins and minerals and all came towards the quad bike and feed right off the back . With the keepers advice we saw our window of opportunity and slowly advanced at the herds of deer getting the essential vitamins and minerals from the open sacks on the bike.

We got as close to these animals as we dare without spooking them , the keeper said that I should shoot from the rear passenger side window of the vehicle where I was sat ,as the opening of the range rovers door might spook them and our opportunity on this stalk would be lost.

Try as I must I could get a clear sight picture on the magnificent stag I wanted with it being at least 30-40 meters away , so the keeper who by luck had a few pocket full of the essential vitamins and minerals proceeded to throw these out of the window and in doing so by accident also threw out five loafs of bread he also had in the vehicle .

Anyway this by luck seemed to work and the deer came close to the car where I selected my trophy (they did seem to like the bread ), I lined him up with a good heart lung shot held my breath and squeezed the trigger . The deer I was aiming at went straight down but the deer behind him got clipped by the exiting bullet . I felt a bit bad at first but the keeper said not to worry as the enclosure was very small and he will be easy to find.

It was then straight over to the deer for some trophy pictures , the deer would not leave the area as they wanted the essential vitamins and minerals so the chap on the quad bike had to drive away with the deer following him it was like something out of pied piper of hamlet . Several pictures later I was whisked off to the estate house for a good single malt and sort out the bill.

To this day this was one of the most rewarding stalks I have been on, the wife and sister in law were also lucky enough to bag a stag each , please don’t be so dismissive of this place with trophey fee's and the weekend at the spa ,you will get change out of £20,000 .
 
Neil
i hope you did not shoot my mate :evil:
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he was only £4000
think you might of been robbed a little :lol: :lol:
 
The yanks will shoot anything, put a white sheep in a field with horns tethered to a tree and they will pay through the nose to shoot it!!

they are pretty magnificent beasts at Woburn abbey though!! Even the Munties are big!!!
 
Griffshrek

Did the keeper tell you where he got his essential minerals and vitamins from, I knew i was doing it the hard way :lol:
 
Gents

On a more serious note I,m not against this type of “stalking” as it fills a market need and supports and secures jobs in the field. the venson goes into the food chain . If I get my 6 numbers on Saturday and win the lottery will I go there and get me a deer …..no .

Its not what I want from the sport, I have been lucky enough not to be bitten by the big antler and rare breed bug. I,m more a putting the deer in the freezer type of guy .

My enjoyment is getting out in the fields and woods taking in the wildlife around you and almost being part of it, (don’t mean to sound like a tree hugger) when stalking we see things that a only very small proporion of socity experiences . Thing that “joe public” will never see in their lifetime unless the great Richard Atinbrough does a program on it .

I love the very early morning stalk when you are out at first light the human world is all still asleep and the animal world is coming alive around you . I love the getting close to the quarry and the skill of stalking up on the animal . I love providing food for my family and friends this to me is the whole part of stalking , but I appricate other may not want this some only want the trophy or the image .

I was talking to a someone last yr who has a stalking lease in Scotland and he had invited me up if I wanted , of course I wanted to go but I am a normal type of guy , no way could I take five days off work expence of digs and travel from Wales to top of Scotland expect the wife to manage the kids ,dogs etc while I have a jolly. She didn’t say no but there are other prioties , anyway I spoke to this guy after he came ac and he said they had bagged a lot of deer . When I enquired how the extraction of the big reds went out of the field (as its in the middle of nowhere) he replied they only shot big antlered stags and took the heads only they left the rest in the field to rot as it was too difficult to extract . This appalled me as im a “waste not want not “ type of guy .

I am glade I didn’t go as the leaving of the carcases to rot would of spoiled my trip , I don’t think I would of shot any just for the trophy., I think this type of shooting is worst even more so than poaching as at least the animal is used when poached .

Anyway I will be thinking of the Level 1 Woburn abby stalk the next time I am humping out a fallow over my shoulders or a deer pack the 2 miles back to the car when my back starts aching within the first 5 mins , I might change my mind then ……….neil
 
Yanks

Guys

I have had 3 American Guests out much of this week accompanied on one of the estates I stalk, they were pretty high maintanence & did upset a few of the guests at the local hotel where we tend to place the stalking guests, as they were very noisy & demanding.

On the whole they had a good week & took some nice clean bucks during their stay, I just wish we were getting a fraction of those prices though!

Regs Lee
 
Hey Stag

Have we met????

No doubt some tale would be subsequently told how he spent two days on a mountain , slept under the stars and eventually dropped the monster at 3oo yds with a neck shot .


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