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    building a rifle

    What pitfalls do I need to avoid if I am going to embark on building a rifle?

    Do I need the calibre on my ticket before I buy the barrel etc. Is it any cheaper to build than say a new tikka t3.

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    Pitfalls - have a look at my gallery. I've bought more rifles than I have fingers and I guess I am slowly getting to where I want to be. That's my fourth 243 and my third 260 Rem in my gallery. Unless you have very deep pockets, you will find yourself making compromises left, right and centre. Compromises or mistakes. Most of my early purchases were misguided. My current list of things to consider includes:

    Remington clone action (as good as you can afford)
    Mcmillan stock
    Calibre that uses Lapua/Norma brass.
    Jewell trigger
    0 MOA scope rail
    Magazine – a very tricky area. I favour a floor plate.
    Get a common threading on the end of the barrel.
    Barrel – the best you can afford.
    Barrel - suitable twist and length agreed based on expected usage.
    Chambering – make it a tight neck and supply a dummy round

    It's not an exhaustive list and I expect folk to highlight other factors to consider.
    The list above is a start, but the most important thing is finding someone handy to do the work.

    Good luck. JCS
    Last edited by jcampbellsmith; 18-07-2012 at 07:46.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trigwig78 View Post
    What pitfalls do I need to avoid if I am going to embark on building a rifle?

    Do I need the calibre on my ticket before I buy the barrel etc. Is it any cheaper to build than say a new tikka t3.
    Do you mean you want to build the rifle yourself?

    Ian.

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    you need space on your ticket if your chambering the barrel yourself
    if somone else is doing it for you ie a rfd you only need space on ticket once the rifle is finished and you want to take it home
    but to buy a blank barrel you dont need anything on your ticket as long as its not chambered ,it becomes a firarm part once its chambered
    buy the best components you can afford ,a custom action rifle has a better re-sale value
    i love the borden action ,mcmillan stocks ,or darrel hollands wich are made by mcmillan ,jewell trigers ,and a trueflite ultra match barrel and it will look and shoot the part
    and pick a accurate caliber to suit your needs with the right twist and throated corectly
    or you can buld around a factory action tika, sako or remmy and it will shoot as good

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    OK how does one buy or acquire an action which of course is a pressure bearing item.

    Best thing I can think of is talk to your licensing department and get their ideas/requirements in writing then work with and round them. Remember what the Firearms act and HO say means little when dealing with some licensing departments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trigwig78 View Post
    What pitfalls do I need to avoid if I am going to embark on building a rifle?

    Do I need the calibre on my ticket before I buy the barrel etc. Is it any cheaper to build than say a new tikka t3.
    First thing is you need to be patient, if your asking a traditional rifle smith to build you a rifle it may take time by time I mean 18 months. Some can do it in 3 months or less.

    Somebody else has answered your question re calibre on your ticket before buying a barrel, but if you're buying a steel rude with rifling in it no you don't need a calibre on your ticket if it's chambered for a calibre then you do. Action wise depends if you go for traditional (mauser, winchester 70 etc. etc...) or modern (lawton, RPA, etc...) will drive the cost of the build as well. as for the stock, plastic fantastic is relatively cheap compared to wood were the sky is the limit.

    Re your question is it cheaper than a new Tikka t3 the answer is yes and no, if you're re-barreling an old action it will get close to the cost of a new Tikka however you will end up with something built to your specification and personal to you then it's going to cost probably more than a sako. if your making a rifle with a wooden stock take your time don't rush decisions you can't put wood back on once it's taken off.

    Jason

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    One way of building a nice bit cheaper or similar in price to a T3 would be an old mauser action, I used a 1909 Argentine (under 200 Euro).
    Get a new pre chambered and threaded Lothar Walther K98 Barrel in calibre of choice which is around 190 Euro . This
    then only needs headspacing and screwing in.
    Plenty walnut or cheap plastic stocks around for mausers.
    Triggers can be tuned very nicely, no need for an aftermarket trigger.

    Fitting a Picatinny rail is not too difficult either. Might need to pin point heat the action on the area where one
    would like to drill and thread
    I chose a normal steel barrel and could therefore have it blued which is much cheaper than Ceracoating.

    edi

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    edg,

    The Argentine action you talk about is probable the best Mauser action produced, really tight tollerances it's excellent and getting rare in the UK.

    Jason

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    Quote Originally Posted by ejg View Post
    One way of building a nice bit cheaper or similar in price to a T3 would be an old mauser action, I used a 1909 Argentine (under 200 Euro).
    Get a new pre chambered and threaded Lothar Walther K98 Barrel in calibre of choice which is around 190 Euro . This
    then only needs headspacing and screwing in.
    Plenty walnut or cheap plastic stocks around for mausers.
    Triggers can be tuned very nicely, no need for an aftermarket trigger.

    Fitting a Picatinny rail is not too difficult either. Might need to pin point heat the action on the area where one
    would like to drill and thread
    I chose a normal steel barrel and could therefore have it blued which is much cheaper than Ceracoating.

    edi
    Hi,

    where do you get LW pre chambered at that price?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jason View Post
    edg,

    The Argentine action you talk about is probable the best Mauser action produced, really tight tollerances it's excellent and getting rare in the UK.

    Jason
    I got myself a 1909 DWM complete carbine here in Germany unused carbine 7.63xwhatever (argenine mil cal) for 195 euros. One day it will build into something - or maybe I will use the calibre as it is, for deer it would work just fine.
    Martin

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