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    any ideas guys

    Just wondering if there is an age when a youngster can accompany some one on a shooting day?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mal mason View Post
    Just wondering if there is an age when a youngster can accompany some one on a shooting day?
    As young as possible!

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    I have a very sensible 13 year old who is a member of BASC and has a SGC. I replied to an ad on here but the chap said that 13 was too young to accompany on a paid stalk but OK to come watch us bunny bashing. Obviously can't shoot bunnies as the legal age to use a rifle (other than a club) is 14.

    If you are paying for a recreational stalk it's the stalker you would need to convince.

    Said child has been extensively in the field with me from 10.

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    I just think the guide was being prudent about how practical it is to be a threesome on a stalk when he is trying to get you on deer. Sometimes it's hard enough when you are on your own !
    My lad has been out with me since the age of 7, but I would never and would not even now take him out if there was going to be 3 of us.

    Its all Personal choice though.
    Last edited by prometheus; 20-07-2012 at 08:28.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthDorset View Post
    Obviously can't shoot bunnies as the legal age to use a rifle (other than a club) is 14.
    Think you will find that is 17.

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    Dont see why not.
    its your money afterall

    I would be most put out if a stalker I was paying refused to allow me to bring my son.
    They don't all have to be together on the final approach

    park them someone where they can sit and watch if the conditions don't allow for continued stalking

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    This is an interesting one because on at least 3 occasions last year I had 2 guests out stalking as one rifle. They asked if it was okay prior to coming and that the two of them were experienced stalkers. I did say that it is not ideal but at the end of the day it is their money they are spending and it has to be said may impact a bit on success rates, unless any guides on here have stats to the contrary???

    I think the approach in should deer be seen really has to be the guide and the person taking the shot, whilst the observer remains back in a position not to cause any unwanted disturbance.

    I take my two boys out together (aged 10 and 11, but both been coming out for years so know what is required) regularly with me with varying degress of success, but not once have I felt they disturbed beasts we were watching whilst deciding on what to shoot. That does not mean the extra disturbance caused by an extra set of feet has not caused missed opportunities unknown to me though! Just a week ago we bumped into a large group of sika just after entering the wood and the two of them simply stopped walking where they were, whilst I crawled forward and took the shot.

    I am actually taking a lad out next week with his young son who likewise has been going with him for years. If dad is happy with that then so am I...

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    Quote Originally Posted by eggy s View Post
    Think you will find that is 17.
    Eggy I think you are wrong, at 14 you can possess a section one firearm. You can use an air rifle under the age of 14 as long as you are supervised by an adult over the age of 21.

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    Lifted from the pages of the internet...

    You have to be 17 before you can borrow a rifle and use it accompanied by the occupier. The minimum age for having a firearm certificate is 14 and you can use the rifle unsupervised at that age. So any 14+ wishing to borrow Dad’s rifle and shoot bunnies, foxes or deer needs a certificate.

    The traditional way into shooting used to be with a low power air gun but the legislation surrounding their use has become even more restrictive than for rifles or shotguns.

    Under 14s can only use an air gun on private premises and must be supervised by someone over 21. From 14 to 17 you can use it on private property without supervision but if you are in a public place you must be accompanied by someone over 21.

    I can see that in some circumstances 14 to 17 year olds would be better off with a high power air gun on an FAC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by prometheus View Post
    Eggy I think you are wrong, at 14 you can possess a section one firearm. You can use an air rifle under the age of 14 as long as you are supervised by an adult over the age of 21.

    If and it is a fairly unlikely if you can persuade your local bobby at the age of 14 you need a FAC then yes you can own one.

    The legal ages when you can be loaned a rifle is 17.

    As the person that mentioned this stated his son has a SGC but did not state he has a FAC it would be safe to assume he would have to borrow a rifle in which case the age is 17 .

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