out last night with a newbie to stalking and went for a mooch about trying the call after a warmer day. A doe came rushing in from an isolated area of scrub and woodland with two kids and by the time I remembered the camera was there we'd already pulled her to 50 meters so I'd passed over the call for the lad to have a go with to get a little bit of experience. There was no buck with the doe but I think things are getting real close here now. Cools