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    2nd day reloading .222

    Well guys, loaded up another 5 loads same as yestaerday and the shot ok about a 2inch group so i decided to make up another 5 and extend the OAL a bit to experiment. Loaded up still with 1.6cc dipper but extended the OAL from 2.095 to 2.150 and what a difference, 3shots in under an inch. Will post a pic as soon as the Burd comes back with camera, but it leads me to as another question. do i make up another 20 rounds or so to see how accurate it is and if perfect just leave it at that, or do i keep experimenting. Cheers

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    I like how you phrased it as "keep experimenting" when you are talking about the 2nd batch of reloads you've ever made

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    It really depends on what sort of person you are some people are always striving for improvement, for some hand loading becomes as much a hobby as shooting so will continue to experiment.

    In the early days I experimented a bit until I got grouping like you are getting and I left it at that been using the same load for over twenty years, I have no illusions about my shooting anything better than inch grouping would be wasted on me as I can't shoot better than that, and the truth is neither can a lot of people but they won't admit it.


    The only experimenting I did after that was work up loads for for a couple of different bullet weights that would shoot to the same POA so that I could change from one bullet weight to another without having to re zero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saddler View Post
    I like how you phrased it as "keep experimenting" when you are talking about the 2nd batch of reloads you've ever made
    Whats wrong with trying different things out as long as i keep within the limits of the .222 load data. I dont have any scales at the moment so it will just be with bullet seating depths at the moment. Sorry if i burst your bubble but 2nd day and shooting under an inch, whats wrong with that, as long as a play safe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fifestalker25 View Post
    Whats wrong with trying different things out as long as i keep within the limits of the .222 load data. I dont have any scales at the moment so it will just be with bullet seating depths at the moment. Sorry if i burst your bubble but 2nd day and shooting under an inch, whats wrong with that, as long as a play safe.
    Nothing wrong at all - just compared to the levels of effort that some of the F-class chaps put in to work out load variables I thought your use of the term was funny

    Where in Fife are you?

    I mainly use an RCBS 1500 Chargemaster - happy to give you access to it for an hour or so if you want to fine-tune your powder charges
    Last edited by saddler; 19-08-2012 at 12:21.

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    Just outside Anstruther. Thanks for offer, will be getting some scales in the next week or two so will just see how the dipper performs for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fifestalker25 View Post
    Whats wrong with trying different things out as long as i keep within the limits of the .222 load data. I dont have any scales at the moment so it will just be with bullet seating depths at the moment. Sorry if i burst your bubble but 2nd day and shooting under an inch, whats wrong with that, as long as a play safe.
    Hi Fifestalker i recommend you get a set of scales ASAP i have RCBS 750 Rangemaster and found it to be good or you can get ballance scales that are cheaper. Any are better than relying on DIPPERS. I also reload for .222 and achieve clover leaf results.

    Kind regards Jimbo

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    Ahh! - It's already started - What about the other two shots in the group? I've been looking for the perfect load for over 40 years and still looking. Is your super new load going to retain enough energy/stability out past 200yds. Most loading manuals start with loads at a very low level and you are below this figure - I find most loads start to come together at about 2/3 up the loading table range, seldom at the very bottom. You have just started to skim the surface of a very deep pond (promising start though)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1066 View Post
    Ahh! - It's already started - What about the other two shots in the group? I've been looking for the perfect load for over 40 years and still looking. Is your super new load going to retain enough energy/stability out past 200yds. Most loading manuals start with loads at a very low level and you are below this figure - I find most loads start to come together at about 2/3 up the loading table range, seldom at the very bottom. You have just started to skim the surface of a very deep pond (promising start though)
    First shot was to the left and 2nd a bit low, both my fault. never planned on really shooting past 200yrds. I understand what yous are saying aswel about scales, will be getting some soon.
    Was just happy that changing the seating depth a bit made a big improvment. Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo 30 06 View Post
    Hi Fifestalker i recommend you get a set of scales ASAP i have RCBS 750 Rangemaster and found it to be good or you can get ballance scales that are cheaper. Any are better than relying on DIPPERS. I also reload for .222 and achieve clover leaf results.

    Kind regards Jimbo
    Lord yes! Loading by volume is a really dicey proposition.

    On the other hand, this guy has made about 20 cartridges to date and has seen improvement (Or sensed it. Too few rounds fired IMHO) so why are we pushing him to a Charge Master? He's hardly finished experimenting with seating depth, I'd think. Or changing primers. Next we'll be telling him to get a Co-Axial press and bench rest dies with micrometer seater. How about we put our collective heads together and figure out how he can improve groups within the parameters of his equipment? It would be far more educational than sending him out on a spending spree.~Muir

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