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Thread: What are your ideas for a custom build?

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    What are your ideas for a custom build?

    Have been kicking around ideas for a new rifle and it seems almost impossible to find everything I want in a factory built rifle, perhaps with the exception of the new FN series (thanks for your PM Griff, reply waiting for you).

    I have researching various things on having a custom rifle built. While I don't need it for deer, I will looking to produce something with sufficient accuracy to be competitive up to 1000 yards (not world class competitive but at least on a club basis) and as far as I am concerned, a rifle can't be too accurate and there's nothing to build confidence like a zero target with one, not very, raggy little hole in it.

    Looking to use what I build for just about everything. Foxing, pest control, stalking and target shooting at anything up to 1000 yards. (not much long range shooting but would quite like to get into it).

    It looks to me like the best parts to go for would be:

    A Wild Dog tactical stock. Carbon fibre so it should save a lot of weight compared to a fibreglass one that will be important for stalking.

    A Shilen Select Match Grade SS barrel about 22 inches finished length (short-ish for target use but more suited to use with a moderator)Quite a heavy profile, maybe 5 or 5 1/2 straight taper, fluted.

    A surgeon repeater action with built in picatinny rail. Looks to be a good option out of the box without any further work. Makes sense to me to go with a true custom action built for the purpose rather than working over a factory action. Built on the rem 700 footprint it will fit int almost any stock and will take most of the mag system / triggers etc.

    Any thoughts frm those of you who are into these things?

    Last one.........just for fun name the best calibre for my new rifle........

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    I'm currently contemplating something similar (subject to selling a rifle to finance it)

    Wild dog stocks: contact Roger @ SYSS who imports them http://www.rimfiremagic.co.uk/ - I emailed him about one and he said he'd more or less given up with them because he's got a order going back sometime last year that still hasn't appeared. So, regardless of how good they are, you may not be able to get hold of one.

    Other alternatives: McMillan, imported by Jackson rifles, so you can get one if they have it in stock rather than having to wait, though not cheap.

    Also: http://mannersstocks.com/
    http://www.robertsoncomposites.com

    Surgeon: good choice, also imported by SYSS. Not the cheapest though! The remington 700 type action is more flexible in choice of accesories. There are similar alternatives like the Lawton (imported by SYSS, Roger says they've finally arrived). Also, the Stiller Predator or the Barnard S, that is imported by Fox Firearms. RPA qualite may also be an option, though the recoil lug is further forward.

    Barrel: IMHO much of a muchness: the average punter is not going to notice the difference between any of the custom brands and there's plenty of them.

    Calibre? I'm not opening that can or worms! Get a barrel vice and action wrench and get as many barrels in different calibres then switch them round for variety

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    Not quite what you guys would do, but I can't use my trigger finger due to severed tendons and I have to use my middle finger to pull the trigger. It works ok but I don't feel you get a good grip.
    What i would like is a nice thumbhole stock, I have tried one in my local gun room on an air rifle( not quite the same i know ) but it gave a better grip.

    Any ideas for a nice thumbhole for a T3 Varmint

    Jonathon

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    Although Mat says they are proving difficult to get hold of, Wild dog do a corker which is what I want.

    Manners make thumbhole, not to my mind as pleasing to the eye as the wild dog.

    These two will probably have to be especially inletted.

    Robertson certainly inlet for the T3 action, but not sure if they have a thumbhole version. Jackson rifles stock them.

    Perhaps a McMillan A3 or A5 might do if you haven't tried with a very upright pistol grip would also work as you take the weight on top of your hand rather than holding the weight by gripping.

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    AI chassis system or Bell and Carlson TH might do you as well......

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    Quote Originally Posted by 243varmint
    Not quite what you guys would do, but I can't use my trigger finger due to severed tendons and I have to use my middle finger to pull the trigger. It works ok but I don't feel you get a good grip.
    What i would like is a nice thumbhole stock, I have tried one in my local gun room on an air rifle( not quite the same i know ) but it gave a better grip.

    Any ideas for a nice thumbhole for a T3 Varmint

    Jonathon
    Try these guys SSS

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    Give Jackson rifles a call and thet will be pleased to give you plenty of advice on 1000m rifles (i seem to remember Peter Jackson was a serious competitor in 1000m stuff)
    I suppose it depends on what type of competition you want to do, if you are going to shoot lots of rounds through a Target rifle the 308 is still a great choice, for me i'd be looking what was winning the F class competitions, then i'd ignore that and buy a 6.5x284.
    Deffinately Mcmillan stock, The rest comes down to whats available and recomended by the man whos building it.
    if you can get hold of a copy try reading 'Varmint hunters odesy' from Sinclair international. it's got lots of tips on building a custom rifle and some of the weirdest calibres imaginable.

    Ezzy

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    Wingers,
    weight will be an issue. Too heavy will take the fun out of it.
    Roedale built this to show at the IWA.
    Lightened Howa action, 5 or 10 shot mag system.
    A really fat fluted Lothar Walther Aluminium test barrel in a carbon PSE stock.
    Weight.... 2.9kg
    Cal? maybe 260 or 7-08
    edi

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    Thanks for your thoughts people, all useful things to work on. I was thinking 6.5-284 as an option but have been looking mainly at .308 until now.

    I still maintain that the larger calibres are the way to go and this might have to shoot boar too so 6.5 might not quite be the one. Even more than calibre limitations the idea of a new barrel every 1000 shots if im lucky on something that will be a recreational tool to start with at least is not appealing!

    However, it did make me look into the .284win. There are some impressive F class results coming out for it. looking at the bullets available they show the highest BC I can find of any VLD target bullets. In fact a 180 Berger VLD out of a .284 showed 35 inches less wind drift in 10mph sidewind and 100 inches less drop at 1000 yards than a 308 using a 168 grain target bullet. Not quite comparing apples with apples but impressive. No reason I can't load it down for stalking as IMHO and limited experience, extreme velocity reqd for the above target performance is the enemy of the stalker in terms of carcase damage. Plenty of bullet weight left to make up the reqd muzzle energy. Also with 175 gn RN it should comprehensively stop anyhting I'm likely to be able t aford to shoot at!

    Has anyone got any practical experience of the .284? suitable twist rates and versatility for target use / stalking and all other purposes. Twist rate for heavy bullets are particularly of interest.

    Thanks again. W

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    Quote Originally Posted by ejg
    Wingers,
    weight will be an issue. Too heavy will take the fun out of it.
    Roedale built this to show at the IWA.
    Lightened Howa action, 5 or 10 shot mag system.
    A really fat fluted Lothar Walther Aluminium test barrel in a carbon PSE stock.
    Weight.... 2.9kg
    Cal? maybe 260 or 7-08
    edi
    Edi, I'm guessing that it's one of your stocks?

    Is this you: http://www.gkhaus.de/index.html ???

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