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Thread: Starbucks pay no UK tax for 3 years

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    Starbucks pay no UK tax for 3 years

    I suggest until they pay their fair share they get boycotted. I prefer Costa in any even

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ycott-tax.html

    Scrun

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    I prefer money to be in private hands than government. Less money in the budget the better.


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    Quote Originally Posted by glogin View Post
    I prefer money to be in private hands than government. Less money in the budget the better.
    Mmmmm, ok, but who's going to pay for schools, the NHS, The Military etc - are you gona get your own cheque book out. And the money isn't in UK hands it's in USA hands !

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    Quote Originally Posted by scrun63 View Post
    Mmmmm, ok, but who's going to pay for schools, the NHS, The Military etc - are you gona get your own cheque book out. And the money isn't in UK hands it's in USA hands !
    Tax is paid in the UK - PAYE via the payroll, NI contributions, business rates, VAT, all the Starbucks staff on the payroll use their money in the UK economy. OK, so they don't pay corporation tax, but as an accountant once said to me when doing our accounts 'how much profit would you like to make this year?' - profit can be a matter of opinion.

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    We do pay for it anyway but 40% gets "lost somewhere" on the way between your pocket and teacher, doctor, etc. You dont need NHS to be healthy. Have you seen a man laying on the street screaming "I need NHS!" ? No, people need doctor, nurse, injection, surgery, they dont need NHS. It's the same with schools, etc. I am happy to pay that all myself as long as I dont have to pay VAT and worst of all income tax.


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    Quote Originally Posted by glogin View Post
    We do pay for it anyway but 40% gets "lost somewhere" on the way between your pocket and teacher, doctor, etc. You dont need NHS to be healthy. Have you seen a man laying on the street screaming "I need NHS!" ? No, people need doctor, nurse, injection, surgery, they dont need NHS. It's the same with schools, etc. I am happy to pay that all myself as long as I dont have to pay VAT and worst of all income tax.
    The simple fact is that, unless you are *considerably* richer than the average, you simply cannot afford to pay for services (health, education, transport or otherwise) of the quality you currently receive via the public sector. Things like coporation tax etc essentially subsidsie the cost of first world standard services for the majority who would not otherwise be able to afford them. In the absence of such taxation and subsidy, you end up with a small minority able to afford outstanding services, and a very large majority with very poor or absent services.

    That is not so say the current institutions are perfect - they very clearly aren't, and inefficiency is rampant. But to use this as an argument for abolishing taxation and public services is like saying 'my car has low mileage - clearly cars are useless'.

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    I dont say abolish all taxation, as there are things such as police and military all people benefit from, but any "wealth redistribution" is pure evil. It just violates the eight commandment - do not steal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mungo View Post
    inefficiency is rampant
    The entire public sector have an impression that there is a bottomless pit of money to subsidise it, they don't live in the real world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glogin View Post
    I dont say abolish all taxation, as there are things such as police and military all people benefit from, but any "wealth redistribution" is pure evil. It just violates the eight commandment - do not steal.
    Many would argue that much of what generates wealth is also a form of theft - especially that wealth that is generated via speculation and related mechanisms which do not rely on tangible products.

    And again, many of the services that all benefit from require heavy taxation - of the sort that often gets labelled 'wealth redistribution'. There's absolutely no way we'd be able to afford anything beyond a quaint home defence force armed and some part-time constables without things like corporation tax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Virbius View Post
    The entire public sector have an impression that there is a bottomless pit of money to subsidise it, they don't live in the real world.
    I work in the public sector, and, at least in my bit of it (higher education and science), that is very much not the case. There are inefficiencies - many - but that has a lot more to do with incompetence than with a perception that we can cheerfully keep expecting more. And a lot of the incompetence is due to the fact that many of the people in senior admin positions are there because they aren't good enough to work in the private sector.

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