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Thread: Badger Cull Training Coarses?!?!

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    Badger Cull Training Coarses?!?!

    What are everyones views on the training coarses shooters are having to take in order to cull badgers?

    Do you think its a good thing or a bad thing for shooting in general?

    Do you think the DSC should be manditory for deer stalking? If so then where should it end (i.e. foxes? Rabbits?)??

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    I believe we should all strive to be better. Not everyone has relatives that shoot to get them into the sport. I'd be quite happy if DSC 1 was made compulsory. Just because you have been doing something for a long time doesn't necessarily mean you are good at it.

    The badger issue is a bit different - the government has to be seen to do everything they can to ensure the cull is humane, so yes I am fully supportive of the training there.

    IF there was training available in small vermin then I don't see that as being a bad thing per say. Why not have it available? Even if you either got some experience with a mentor or did some training. When I was starting out I'd have done them if they were available.

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    The course is apparently part of " fit for purpose" for the cull, in a nutshell transferring onus on the operator to comply, general requirement, to sign you off as competant, nothing too serious, lantra run a fox reduction course which is supposed to be of true grit, better off to spend your money on that.

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    Anyone who knows anything about Badgers would know that they would be the easyist thing in the world to shoot.
    With a good wind and a red lamp you could poke them with a short stick never mind shoot them
    AT THE AGE OF 50 I DECIDED I WAS GOING TO GROW OLD F***ING DISGRACEFULLY

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    Quote Originally Posted by sikadog View Post
    Anyone who knows anything about Badgers would know that they would be the easyist thing in the world to shoot.
    With a good wind and a red lamp you could poke them with a short stick never mind shoot them
    Don't even need that, I sat in highseat the other day with at least six on the field in front of me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Apache View Post
    I believe we should all strive to be better. Not everyone has relatives that shoot to get them into the sport. I'd be quite happy if DSC 1 was made compulsory. Just because you have been doing something for a long time doesn't necessarily mean you are good at it.

    The badger issue is a bit different - the government has to be seen to do everything they can to ensure the cull is humane, so yes I am fully supportive of the training there.

    IF there was training available in small vermin then I don't see that as being a bad thing per say. Why not have it available? Even if you either got some experience with a mentor or did some training. When I was starting out I'd have done them if they were available.
    Does not mean that you are bad at it either.
    A piece of paper means you passed an exam not that you are good at something.
    I would be very unhappy if dsc were made compulsory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by j0e_bl0ggs View Post
    Does not mean that you are bad at it either.
    A piece of paper means you passed an exam not that you are good at something.
    I would be very unhappy if dsc were made compulsory.
    +1 on that.

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    The problem is EVERYBODY has to learn at some stage of there shooting, be it at 8 years old or 80 , and yes I fully agree there are alot of very capable and experienced guys out there who would do it very well in there sleep, but there are also alot of guys who couldn't , and in my experience the newcomer to the sport isn't that guy , but he is enthusiastic to be that guy, they do need guidance! I have seen it on pheasant shoots for example, where they are full of it but no very little and watching them try to kill a pricked bird is not good , the same people need to be shown , now the problem is who is capable to do the job on Merritt of a conversation on the phone or email, for all you no I could be a complete novice ora an experiaced guy ! So the tests may give some light on who is fit or not, just my thought on it

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    Well I have just taken my DSC1 and I agree that it was very useful and informative but mainly with regards to identification and meat/food hygene. The shooting test IMO isnt much of a test of skill, I think I could have hit the target with a slingshot let alone a rifle.

    I am all for coarses as I am sure there is always something we can learn. My concern is why they are making shooters take tests to shoot badgers!?! IMO its because there is an outcry from the anti's and DEFRA are playing in to their hands.

    Once the uproar about badgers is over, the next issue will be that people are shooting foxes without any form of training and then where does it stop?!?

    The whole things paints a picture of shooters as irisponsible blood thursty idiots who take potshots at quarry and do not concern themselves with the welfare of the animals they control. The people who are raising these concerns have no knowledge of shooting what so ever, yet we are taking tests to proove to these people we know what we are doing. I watched a news debate clip yesterday where one of Brian's lot where questioning how on earth a shooter can locate, identify and shoot a badger in the pitch dark and how dangerous it is to have people shooting at night! This just shows that these people have no idea about what we do, yet we are having to answer to them with regards to prooving ourselves compitant.

    Seems a bit like prooving you can paint a picture to a blind man!

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    [QUOTE=HuN73R666;456208]Well I have just taken my DSC1 and I agree that it was very useful and informative but mainly with regards to identification and meat/food hygene. The shooting test IMO isnt much of a test of skill, I think I could have hit the target with a slingshot let alone a rifle

    Maybe but a lot of people fail on the shooting, in fact I would not be surprised if the greatest number of failures are on the shooting.

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