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    Asylum Seeker

    From the BT Yahoo news

    A drink-driver who killed an aspiring model by driving the wrong way down a motorway has been jailed for eight years.
    Wilfred Museka was travelling at "motorway speed" when he caused a head-on crash that left 20-year-old Rebecca Caine, from Leeds, with fatal injuries.

    Zimbabwean national Museka, 31, had pleaded guilty to causing death by dangerous driving at an earlier hearing at Manchester Minshull Street Crown Court.

    Museka, who came to the
    UK as an asylum seeker from Zimbabwe, had also admitted fraudulently claiming to have held a full UK driving licence for 10 years, driving with no insurance and with excess alcohol.

    Museka had previously been convicted of drink-driving and had been caught driving while disqualified on three occasions in the past.


    Precisely how many of our laws does an asylum seeker have to ignore repeatedly before we chuck him back whence he came?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chanty Wrassler View Post
    Precisely how many of our laws does an asylum seeker have to ignore repeatedly before we chuck him back whence he came?
    BBC News - Abu Qatada released from prison

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    all theseasylum seekers are running around with fraudulent documents and some of them have 2 or 3 identities in diffrent places to claim benefit they are on about the numbers of deaths by drink driving increasing but will not tell you how many deaths are caused by asylum seekers and foriegn workers in this country
    Last edited by tom reveley; 14-11-2012 at 07:41.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PointBlank View Post
    Why doesnt Cameron just over rule the whole job and just get him flown back to Jordan???......Blair over ruled and took our guys to war!!!!!

    Who the **** runs this country?????

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    Well it certainly aint run for us brother,that is for sure, cant say too much but I have first hand involvement with these people, and I am shocked to say the least,on a day to day basis,people that have no right to be here,sponging from us,commiting crime, no way of supporting themselves,but its funny,I have encountered quite a few driving late model cars, like audis, and BMW, makes my blood boil

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2130martin View Post
    Why doesnt Cameron just over rule the whole job and just get him flown back to Jordan???......Blair over ruled and took our guys to war!!!!!

    Who the **** runs this country?????
    Because disregarding the rule of law is a very bad precedent indeed. Blair may have done so, but it didn't exactly work out brilliantly, did it? The case of Abu Qatada is indeed now ridiculous, and it's loaded with so much baggage that it's just stuck in a quagmire. What will happen though is that this all creates legal precedent, and next time anyone attempts this sort of prosecution, they'll be wary of the pitfalls so as not to allow people to game the system and circumvent the spirit of the law. It's frustrating, but we stick to our laws because we claim to be better than those who disregard the rights of others. It's the price you pay for not being subject to the arbitrary judgments of those in power.

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    The government are still servents of the Queen. Although she never does, I am sure she still has the right/power to overrule parlement and IMO these extraditions are something she should overrule on!

    Quote Originally Posted by Pine Marten View Post
    Because disregarding the rule of law is a very bad precedent indeed. Blair may have done so, but it didn't exactly work out brilliantly, did it? The case of Abu Qatada is indeed now ridiculous, and it's loaded with so much baggage that it's just stuck in a quagmire. What will happen though is that this all creates legal precedent, and next time anyone attempts this sort of prosecution, they'll be wary of the pitfalls so as not to allow people to game the system and circumvent the spirit of the law. It's frustrating, but we stick to our laws because we claim to be better than those who disregard the rights of others. It's the price you pay for not being subject to the arbitrary judgments of those in power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HuN73R666 View Post
    The government are still servents of the Queen. Although she never does, I am sure she still has the right/power to overrule parlement and IMO these extraditions are something she should overrule on!
    No, she doesn't. Parliament rules, not the monarch, and no-one is above the law. Any such royal powers are in effect devolved to the PM, but he's accountable to parliament too. It's taken a long time and a lot of bloodshed to establish that, and it's probably why we still have a monarchy at all. Also, if the monarch did retain such powers, she wouldn't have to take your opinion into consideration, since she'd unelected and unaccountable to you. So you see, it's a bummer in this particuar case, but that's just an unfortunate side-effect of a system of government and power that tries to guarantee everyone's rights and freedoms, even those of total b@st@rds.

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    Im keen this discussion doesnt degenerate into a racist rant. Asylum seekers legitimately granted the right to stay in this country I have no issue with. Its a matter of compassion.

    However, I think its very likely that we play too much by the rules in this country. We have a reputation for being "Fair"

    Stay with me on this- it does come to a conclusion. In Greece if I want to bring my UK car for more than 6 months I have to pay an import duty of several thousands of pounds, even though I come from an EU State (Which means I specifically shouldnt have to) My car is tested and a Greek plate issued and I have to have a Greek Tax number and pay my Greek Road Fund licence. The Greeks know they break the EU Law but they pay the fine (Or the Germans do, totally different conversation) They work out that the fine is less than the revenue.

    How many Polish and Slovak cars do I see over here with no tax and frequently no insurance and with no UK driving test? How accountable are these drivers?

    We play by the rules and we get our citizens killed.

    OK so lets take that line of thought further. Lets Ship Abu Q back to Jordan. We have already established that he is undesirable. I'm happy with a process precided over by the highest courts in our land as being "Fair" too.

    Once he is in Jordan he is out of our Jurisdiction. Job done! Get him in a car to Northolt, private flight for him and any of his dependants that want to go. How much will the EU fine be? Do you take Amex?


    Similarly we deny those in Prison the vote. Its been a cultural tradition since there were prisons. Those that go to Jail lose their vote. EU dont like it? Where do I send the cheque?


    Someone needs to make the hard choices. They will be very popular decisions. Set up a donations page on "Just Giving" I'm in for a fiver.
    Yes I should have taken the Blue Pill!

    We were so busy congratulating ourself of dodging Orwells vision we marched right into Huxley's.

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    Lets hope that Abu Q gets flat packed crossing the road on his way to the Benefits Office by a drugged out,speeding Asylum Seeker ,now that is REAL Justice...I think it is called Karma

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