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    What would you do...............

    I think the following might be of interest to members..............
    To-day 8th June I attempted to order a Gerber Exchange-a-Blade saw from Attleborough Accessories who in the past I have used and who regularly send be their catalogue.

    When ordering I was asked for my date of birth .... AS THAT SAW YOU ARE ORDERING MIGHT BR CONSIDERED AS A KNIFE ..........

    I stated that I was 64 years of age and that a saw was not a knife and that I had no intention of giving them my date of birth. They stated that they had been advised that that they needed my date of birth...... TO COVER THEMSELVES.

    I stated that I could easily give them a false/incorrect date of birth but had no intention of doing so. I asked where in Law they had authority to require my date of birth. No answer.

    To cut a long story short I asked that my particulars be removed from their data base and I will no longer give them my support.

    Over to you chaps for comment....and remember big brother is watching.[/b]

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    ...and remember big brother is watching.
    Before I came to the UK I always imagined it as a land of freedom. Reading Alexis de Toqueville comparing France and England, free market economy of Adam Smith etc wondered why Orwell wrote in 1984 that there will be INGSOC (English Socialism).

    At the moment it looks like for any problem in the UK there is only one solution - ban it
    Ban air guns because someone got shot, ban knives as some people got stabbed, ban smoking, etc

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    Your DOB is one of the key pieces of information that is required to track an individual through multiple data bases - the other is your NI number. (I work in the Insurance Industry - we always want your DOB.)

    You are under no obligation to give this out to anyone - including a police officer. You need only assert you are "over-21".

    Of course, they are under no obligation to do business with you if you refuse to provide this.

    As a rule, I never give this info out, unless it is absolutely necessary - car insurance etc.

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    i wouldnt worrie about it buddy they didnt make up the rules and they are only trying to do there job within the law which is becoming ever harder for them

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    I am probably way behind the times but I didn't realise eBay had stopped the sale of knives also?


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    i understand where your commng from. the gradual erosion of civil liberties and increased requirement of personal data is a little extreme.
    i was watching questiontime a few months ago and some people in the audience would be happy to give any data including dna or being chipped like a dog. the argument was "if you haven't done anything wrong then you have nothing to fear" i couldn't believe it.
    on to the saw thing. companies sometimes misinterpret guidelines and over react (sometimes with good reason, after i finish this post i am writing a report for litigation purposes and i am steadily being asked to do more of this work). i personally would just get it somewhere else.


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    I have just bought two Cutco hi vis drop point knives (by the way great knife) from one of their UK dealers no age questions asked at all.

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    Your choice.

    Round here the local Co-Op insist that their check out staff "ask" you to confirm that you are over 18. As documented in our local press, an obvious 60 year old will be refused service because they chose to bite off their own nose.....

    No big deal really.


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    Good on you theres a thing called CAUTION that should be used all the time.
    With a DOB, an address you can get just about anything and your also passing on your card details, say bye bye to your identity.

    The knife law has been put in place not to stop us carrying knifes ,but to stop idiots buying them .

    I contacted the Scottish knife crime consortium this was there answer below .

    You asked for some further information about use of knives in deer stalking.

    Whilst carrying a knife in public is prohibited, the law provides a defence of ‘good reason’ for doing so. On the face of it, deer stalking is a such a ‘good reason’ and I would not expect you to be challenged. The current consultation is concerned with knife dealers and does not change the current position on carrying a knife in any way.

    The law on firearms is reserved to the UK Government but the basic principles remain the same – the law accepts that certain occupations such as farmers will have good reasons to carry weapons.

    I hope this helps.

    Walter Drummond-Murray

    Criminal Law and Licensing

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    A song comes to mind . . .

    "Finished with my woman 'cos she couldn't help me with my mind"

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