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    Close to perfect hunting scope

    I just recieved my scope back from fitting new turrets.
    Now I think I'm close to the perfect hunting scope for my 308. S&B Zenith in 3-12x50 with the FD7 reticule. This is a very fine version of a No. 7 which is also great for shooting crows at a distance. The flash-dot projects a red dot onto the reticule and can be adjusted to very bright for daylight driven game. The 3-12 mag just about covers it all for deer hunting.
    To cater for the drop and wind I had the small precision hunter style bdc turrets fitted.
    These are just about perfect for my needs. Single turn, so you don't get lost. Small design that doesn't get hung up when carrying around. Clicks are tough enough to avoid accidental adjustments. The elevation turret is simple, even in the dark one can simply turn it to zero and from memory 3 clicks up is 175m, 6 up is 200m and 15 up 300m with a mild 308. I would mostly keep the scope at 3 clicks up being ready for anything up to about 200yds.

    Only draw back is that these scopes are a bit on the heavy side for hill hunting, but then again very sturdy. At least the zenith is a nice bit lighter than a tactical scope.
    I'll try save weight on other places.
    Elevation turret will do a max of 32cm at 100m.

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    That is a very nice looking scope. I've just fitted the 4-14 IOR scope to my Sako, so I know what you mean about "heavy".

    That said, the groups I shot on the target when zeroing are the best I've had for a long time.

    I see you've stuck the elevation chart on the objective. I couldn't bring myself to do that, so I've got a small laminated version that I keep in my jacket pocket (and a copy in the roe sack, and a copy in the bullet pouch, and a copy in the rifle bag....not that I'm forgetful )


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    this zenith weighs 700grams which is a lot compared to a 400 gram 4-12 swarovski a-line. But then again that wouldn't have the illumination. I had a good look at the IOR's at the IWA, very good glass but as you say quite solid.
    For my foxing rifle I have a drop chart in my pocket at the moment because the chart is too long to stick on the scope. The old sticky tape comes off very well once it gets manky so I'm not too worried. Haven't found the best system yet.


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    How much was it?
    How long did it take?
    What is the difference between reticles? Could you post some pics looking down the tube.


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    Tried taking a pic down the tube, not so easy when nikon decides what to focus on.
    Anyway this is a 3-12x50 S&B classic with a No. 7 at 12 mag Good for deer hunting but useless for target or long range vermin.

    compared to the FD7 of the 3-12x50 zenith also at 12 mag, Illumination switched off.


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    I forgot,
    it costs about 200 Euro to get the turrets fitted with S&B, they will also fit only the elevation if one wishes at half the cost.

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    You obviously know your 'scopes and have thought about this carefully. Impressed with the 'scope. It's funny how on some rifles a heavy scope is less noticeable than on others.

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    if you found out what your pbr is then you would find that you might only need 5-6 clicks for 300yds..


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    Griff I prefer to have a 100m zero and then click up to the distance. Or leave it at 3 up which is the standard of a bit more than an inch up at 100.

    I put the scope on to my 243 for the time being, to test it a bit.
    I'm out after foxes quite a bit lately which will be a good test. Made a drop chart with the help of the Norma site out to 500m. I zeroed the rifle today at 100m and the drop is as follows for an 80gr doing 3200fps. 175m 3 up, 200m 4 up, 250m 7up , 300m 11up, 400m 20 up and 500m 30 up.
    I'll check the drop at 300m when I get a chance.
    Got a fox at last light this eve, let him walk up to me as I knew his path.


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    dial up is the way to go and the most accurate,but in a hunting situation PBR is by far the best.
    Most hunting situations do not allow you the luxury of range and dial.

    Given your info:80gn@3200fps with a 100yd zero =
    100 = 0
    200 = 1.25 moa = 5 1/4 moa clicks
    300 = 3.27 moa = 13 1/4 moa clicks
    400 = 5.74 moa = 23 1/4 moa clicks
    500 = 8.69 moa = 35 1/4 moa clicks

    PBR 183 yds gives a 2" corridor out to 285yds
    183 = 0
    200 = 1 1/4 moa clicks
    300 = 9 1/4 moa clicks
    400 = 19 1/4 moa clicks
    500 = 31 1/4 moa clicks

    With PBR set you would have no hold over out to 285yds but with a 100yd zero there would be a 8.1/4" hold over..trying to guess what 8.1/4"s looks like at 285yds is beyond me.
    I like you always dial,but! in a hunting situation PBR is far more accurate!
    anything under 300yds will require no hold over whereas with a 100 zero every range needs a guess..


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