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    Scottish Shooting Bill

    “This message is to confirm that the Scottish Government has today published a consultation document to help inform the development of a prospective Wildlife and Natural Environment Bill.

    You can access the consultation document at: http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Resource/...21/0082607.pdf

    We have also created a web presence which provides background information about the consultation. These pages be accessed at: http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Topics/En...WildNatEnvBill

    The deadline for responses to the consultation is Friday 4 September 2009. Once the views expressed in consultation have been assessed, the Scottish Government’s current intention is to introduce a Wildlife and Natural Environment Bill to the Parliament at a suitable opportunity.


    Folks

    I think that your responses are needed to this!

    Rgds Ian

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    It'll take 'till the 4th September to read all the bumf….!

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    Scottish Shooting Bill

    Don't live in Scotland and in probability will never shoot there. However, this is likely to affect an awful lot of people living in other countries, including England.

    My brain went to sleep by the time I got to the 'Competence' questions.

    Getting this bill wrong could have disasterous consequencies.

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    I have just had a quick five mintue scan. There is an awful lot of emphasis that the only people who should be allowed to shoot deer are fully vetted individuals who have been registered as fit a nd competent by the DCS or some other regulatory body.

    In otherwords anybody who enjoys their stalking as a hobby, such as myself who has access to a bit of ground and you take out a small handful of deer each year to go into your own freezer is going to be regulated out of existance.

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    I have just had a quick five mintue scan. There is an awful lot of emphasis that the only people who should be allowed to shoot deer are fully vetted individuals who have been registered as fit a nd competent by the DCS or some other regulatory body.

    In otherwords anybody who enjoys their stalking as a hobby, such as myself who has access to a bit of ground and you take out a small handful of deer each year to go into your own freezer is going to be regulated out of existance.

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    This has been awaited for some time. I'm going to read this in detail and put in a detailed response, because I am a stalker and a land owner in Scotland.

    Hidden in all the window dressing is the most insidious and repulsive apsect of proposals - that the government will have the final say on who can shoot deer, not the land owner.

    DSC1, or whatever method they decide, will get you on the register but it will not keep you on it.

    If the government decides you are not wanted on the register then that's that - game over for you stalking in Scotland, no reason to keep your FAC either.

    I'm not a politcal person, but this has a political, dare I say socialist, agenda - nationalising stalking in scotland.

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    I have had a quick look and am starting to feel a bit uncomfortable with it. Only people who are on the register may stalk in Scotland, other folks travelling to us will have to have their equivalent of whatever it is they come up with or be accompanied by a stalker who is on the register.

    I expect the equivalent will be level 2, I would like to think it would be level 1, thereby opening it up to a good many people but I fear it will not be. There is talk of "granfathering" rights for people who can prove their competence, I bet this will apply to keepers and such and to holders of level 2, this will be a small number of people throughout the length of Scotland. This will ensure that the vast majority of stalkers in Scotland will then, if they want to remain stalkers, will have to take the new certificate thereby providing revenue for Mr Salmond who is trying to get money from all quarters. Nix Niveus is right it is all political.

    I shall have to read it all again but at present the only sensible decision is to scrap the game licence, as it stands at the moment winning the lottery would be easier than finding a Post Office with one in and an employee who knew what one is.

    It is not nice reading

    John

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    What a document. The only thing taht is clear is that recreational stalkers will lose out and end up having to sit exams at what cost?

    I wonder what BASC is preparing in response. I'll be responding and talking to BASC as well.

    Dave

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    Thanks for drawing our attention to this IanF. I have followed the debate in the media mainly relating to close seasons and the effect on Red Stag "status" as an iconic national symbol.

    I will take the time to read this at length and respond here and elsewhere.

    Herne

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    I am a small time recreational stalker. I asked the BASC directly about their stance on this and also e-mailed, no response, and yes I am a member. Don't the DCS and BASC have members sitting on in both chairs as it were, was not the dsc 1 and 2 meant too be The "recognised" standard, its very disheartening, quite a worry. i havn't read it all but it will mean more money, thats for sure.

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