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    Providing deer to the game dealer.......

    My understanding of the law with regards to supplying game to a game dealer is that with your DSC1 and therefore FSA Wild Game Meat Hygiene certificate, you could do so once you have done your checks etc and maintained the cool chain etc etc.

    However I have met an abundance of people recently who supply game to the game dealer out of its jacket with no more than their DSC1. Are they as I assume, breaking the law? I often wonder if it is a way for the game dealer to make a few more pounds as he is not paying for the skin that must weigh up to 10kg on some deer, and saves him a job of skinning it or basically people supplying to butchers as opposed to game dealers who are not licensed to take deer in the skin.

    If I am right and they are breaking the law, what would you need qualification wise to be able to sell out of the skin whole deer carcasses to a game dealer/butcher?

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    Anyone selling deer to an AGHE must be registered as Food producer with their local Environmental Health Dept.
    If you process venison i.e skin it,you must have a larder with 2 sinks, cleanable walls, proper drainage etc.
    DSC1 covers both of these with regards qualifications

    Mark
    Quote Originally Posted by stalker.308 View Post
    My understanding of the law with regards to supplying game to a game dealer is that with your DSC1 and therefore FSA Wild Game Meat Hygiene certificate, you could do so once you have done your checks etc and maintained the cool chain etc etc.

    However I have met an abundance of people recently who supply game to the game dealer out of its jacket with no more than their DSC1. Are they as I assume, breaking the law? I often wonder if it is a way for the game dealer to make a few more pounds as he is not paying for the skin that must weigh up to 10kg on some deer, and saves him a job of skinning it or basically people supplying to butchers as opposed to game dealers who are not licensed to take deer in the skin.

    If I am right and they are breaking the law, what would you need qualification wise to be able to sell out of the skin whole deer carcasses to a game dealer/butcher?

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    Remember you don,t need dsc, you can just have the wgmh ticket, for sale with the skin on, the skin is left on to stop dryin out and contamination of the outer carcass, ( hair everywhere ) .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deerstalkermark View Post
    Anyone selling deer to an AGHE must be registered as Food producer with their local Environmental Health Dept.

    Mark
    Tell me where you have read this statement, my understanding is as a trained hunter you do not need to be registered as a food business with the EH unless you process it.
    Richard

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    It is not necessary to be FBO registered to sell to an AGHE in the skin, however skinning is classed as processing so an FBO is needed.

    For guided Roe deer stalking,. BASC accredited trainer for DSC1 and 2. BASC accredited training centre with courses held regularly.
    www.greenleedeer.co.uk

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    To sell Deer to an AGHE you need to be registered as a Food Business

    see the flow chart in the Wild Game Handling Guide

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Lewis View Post
    To sell Deer to an AGHE you need to be registered as a Food Business

    see the flow chart in the Wild Game Handling Guide
    Take note of the "Hunters and Hunter Exemption" and details of the "Trained Person"

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    My experience is that this whole area is a box of frogs and just like firearms legislation, subject to local 'interpretation'! I have had a fascinating exchange of correspondence with my local authority relating to what I can and cannot do with selling and/or giving away venison as a carcass in skin, processed, butchered, jointed and minced. Their main concern is about traceability and good food hygiene. If a stalker does the job properly there wont be any problems.

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    See the flow chart on page 4. It's a fact and is not open to interpretation. "If you shoot alone or in a party and supply game in feather or fir to an AGHE then you must register as a food business"!!
    Quote Originally Posted by devon deer stalker View Post
    Tell me where you have read this statement, my understanding is as a trained hunter you do not need to be registered as a food business with the EH unless you process it.
    Richard

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